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Unread 06-21-2014, 11:51 AM   #1
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What is a nice riding shock with lots of travel for 3.5" lift?

I have Old Man EMU shocks right now, for a 3" lift, but I am adding a full length EMU leaf and leaf sliders, I figure I should get up with 3.5" actual lift. But in taking things apart my shocks are already limiting my droop.

I'd like to keep my ride nice, but want something that will allow full travel, and I was thinking the Bilstein 5100 shocks, but I never realized there were so many options, I have no idea what I actually need or if the bilstein are even the best pick of the bunch. I'd like to keep the cost reasonable, I don't need dual reservoir fox or anything.

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Bilstein 4600, or DoetschTech DT-3000. The extended and compressed length of the shocks you choose will have a greater effect on suspension travel, than the brand or model number of the shock you choose.

www.doetsch-shocks.com
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Ah ok. How do I know what lengths I need?
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Measure the flex, or estimate from a chart.


Shock Lengths



Brand/Model # Extended Collapsed Travel Position
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Napa 37083 (Stock) 21.2 13 8.2 Front
Monroe 32252 (* Stock) 21.25 13 8.1 Front
Monroe 37193 (* 1-3 Lift) 24.25 13.37 10.8 Front
Monroe 911524 (* UpCountry) 21.00 13.4 7.6 Front
Doetsch DT3350 ( 3-5 Lift) 26.5 15.5 11.0 Front
ES1000 ES124515 (* 3" Lift) 24.50 14.38 10.0 Front
ES1000 ES121515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.52 12.72 8.8 Front
ES3000 ES324515 (* 3" Lift) 24.70 14.52 10.2 Front
ES3000 ES321515 (* 0-2" Lift) 20.24 12.45 7.8 Front
ES9000 ES921515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.75 13.06 8.6 Front
ES9000 ES924515 (* 3" Lift) 24.70 14.52 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-H7016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-H7025 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.75 14.54 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-N8016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-N8025 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.75 14.54 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-M9016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Rancho RS5239 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.37 9.38 Front
Rancho RS5128 (* Stock) 20.87 13.00 7.8 Front
Rancho RS99239 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.37 9.38 Front
Rancho RS99128 (* Stock) 20.87 13.00 7.8 Front
Rancho RSX17317 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.50 9.25 Front
Rancho RSX13036 (* Stock) 20.50 12.87 7.6 Front
Bilstein F4-B46-1798 (Stock+Upcountry) 21.50 13.25 8.25 Front
Bilstein F4-BE5-6241-H8 (4 Lift)..Front


Brand/Model # Extended Collapsed Travel Position
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NAPA 37027 (Stock) 20.0 12.8 7.2 Rear
Monroe 32269 (* Stock) 21.50 13.37 8.1 Rear
Monroe 37194 (* Upcountry) 21.12 13.87 7.2 Rear
Monroe 911525 (* Upcountry) 21.50 13.87 7.2 Rear
Monroe 37029 (1-3 Lift ) 23.00 14.375 8.6 Rear
Superlift SLF-85112 (* 2-4" Lift) 24.00 14.50 10 Rear
Superlift SLF-84140 (* 3-5" Lift) 26.07 15.57 10.5 Rear
Superlift SLF-85080 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.57 13.32 8.25 Rear
ES1000 ES124509 (* 3" Lift) 24.86 14.84 10 Rear
ES1000 ES121515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.52 12.97 8.5 Rear
ES3000 ES324509 (* 3" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
ES3000 ES322509 (* 0-2" Lift) 22.58 13.71 8.8 Rear
ES9000 ES922509 (* 0-2" Lift) 22.58 13.72 8.8 Rear
ES9000 ES924509 (* 3" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Skyjacker SJA-N8058 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Skyjacker SKA-H7058 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Doetsch DT-3000 (* 2" Lift) 22.50 13.50 9 Rear
Doetsch DT-3000 (* 4" Lift) 24.50 14.50 10 Rear
Doetsch DT-8000 (* 4" Lift) 24.50 14.50 10 Rear
Rancho RS5194 (* 2-3" Lift) 23.25 14.37 8.8 Rear
Rancho RS5259 (* Stock) 21.50 13.50 8 Rear
Rancho RSX13037 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.12 13.50 7.62 Rear
Bilstien F4-B46-1799 (Stock+UpCountry) 21.50 13.25 8.25 Rear
Bilstein F4-BE5-6686-H6 (4 Lift) .Rear



Note: * These lift heights were included where the shock lengths were found. These were the suggested shocks for that amount of lift. I have no way to ensure these numbers are accurate.

Front Shocks = Bottom Eyelet With Top Stud Mount
Rear Shocks = Bottom/Top Eyelet Mount
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Unread 06-21-2014, 06:31 PM   #5
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Perfect, thank you.

Too bad these ones "Doetsch DT-3000 (* 4" Lift) 24.50 14.50 10 Rear" Don't have a collapsed of like 13"

But I do think they are about the best choice.

Thanks again for that info.



Edit, now where can I order these? The Doetsch site is garbage and doesn't like Canada being a country for shipping, says I need a zip code... but I have a postal code.
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After reading some reviews I have decided to avoid the Doetsch.

So now looking at the EMU or Bilstein. But ordering is pretty tough as everywhere lists different part number and no where lists the lengths. I'd just call, but no one answers on the weekend and I am out in the oilfield during the week, and I doubt my office would like me racking up the sat phone bill to order shocks. (on top of the fact that it's a pain to talk to anyone unless they know how to talk with someone on a sat phone)
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I have had 2 sets of DT3000 and have had good performance from both. They rode smoothly on pavement, and controlled the Jeep properly on the 4x4 trails.
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I have had 2 sets of DT3000 and have had good performance from both. They rode smoothly on pavement, and controlled the Jeep properly on the 4x4 trails.
Seen a lot of reviews about the rusting and pitting causing them to leak.

Coming from EMU shocks would I be dissapointed too?
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The last set started to rust a bit on the chrome shafts due to winter-time Mn DOT road salt. I just rubbed a light coat of grease on them and that halted the rust.
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