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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:01 PM   #1
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What does it take to successfully build a LCOG daily driver?

My XJ is in need of rear suspension. So why not lift it a little and add some meaties to it?

I'm a huge fan of the LCOG Jeeps I've seen around here. Some are stock height, up to 3". The max height I'm thinking is 2", as that's a safe height so I don't have to funk around with the tcase or anything, right?

So, my questions are:
- is it just a matter of buying a lift kit/BB kit and installing it?
- I wouldn't mind learning how to trim metal, so fender trimming would be good to give me more clearance. So how large of tires can I go?
- would I need to modify any other vital parts to keep the Jeep in good reliable condition?

Thanks all!

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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:05 PM   #2
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Lift and trim will be the easy part. Depending on what size tires you wanna run is whats gonna cost ya in regearing, beefier axles, shafts and whatever else you wanna do to it.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:05 PM   #3
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You could do a budget boost. Rock lizard has a good write-up using a bastard pack and different shocks. You could go up to 3'' without a transfer case drop.

I am at about 6'' and I have no SYE and only a t-case drop. (Saving for it)

3'' and 31's is an awesome combination.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:08 PM   #4
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and depending on how you wheel it, plenty of armor as well.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:09 PM   #5
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if you go a little crazy with the cutting wheel, like 2 inches around your fenders, bumpstop properly, and possibly new lower control arms at some point, you could get away with a MAX wheel of 33's. thats actually what im doing once i get my shackles in from IRO, 2.5" lift with 33's. maxxxxximum droop with little lift = awesome setup.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:13 PM   #6
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Was thinking 2" with 31's.

I don't know much about suspension. Bumpstops, DYE, etc. Dunno any of it. Is there a sort of "suspension for dummies" guide that just explains what they are? Haha.

Thanks a lot guys!
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I have like 3.5 and 35s, its pretty sweet, you will NEED bumpstops along with triming, beefy axles, lots and lots of armor, etc... basically the same as building a reg jeep but more bumpstops and fender trimming. with 2 inchs you can run 33 comfortably, maybe even 35s. Always remember lift does not equal tire fittage.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:24 PM   #8
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If you run 31's, you don't need bigger axles really.
I'd get a 2" Old Man Emu lift.

If you really wanted to regear, you could, but you wouldn't have to.
31's are still reasonable on stock gears, though you will notice a change in performance.
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I have like 3.5 and 35s, its pretty sweet, you will NEED bumpstops along with triming, beefy axles, lots and lots of armor, etc... basically the same as building a reg jeep but more bumpstops and fender trimming. with 2 inchs you can run 33 comfortably, maybe even 35s. Always remember lift does not equal tire fittage.
Are you sure you can fit 35's on only 2" of lift?
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Are you sure you can fit 35's on only 2" of lift?
i've seen 37's on 2.5, so yes. all about not being too scared to trim some of the shiny paint off your precious jeep. trim accordingly, bumpstop, take care of the control arms, and you'd be surprised.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:34 PM   #11
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If LCOG is your thing then stay away from lifts. Everyone chiming in with their 3.5 and 6.5 lifts is nice and all, but those are not LCOG setups.

You should trim to fit 31s with no lift and/or 33s with a 2" if you want to stay LCOG.

This guy claims 2" on 33s


I found it in this thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f59/a...71/index2.html
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I'm at 2" of lift and running 31s. I am planning on staying at this height when I go to 33s. A little more trimming and some bumpstopping and you can achieve a lot of tire in a little lift.
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If LCOG is your thing then stay away from lifts. Everyone chiming in with their 3.5 and 6.5 lifts is nice and all, but those are not LCOG setups.

You should trim to fit 31s with no lift and/or 33s with a 2" if you want to stay LCOG.

This guy claims 2" on 33s


I found it in this thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f59/a...71/index2.html
couldnt have said it better myself. lcog is all about droop. lift is nice and all when you pull up to a brand spankin new 2011 cummins dodge 3500 dually and make it look like a matchbox car with your 8" lifted xj on 35's, but on the trail, a 2" lifted xj with 33's/35's is just as capable as a 6.5" lifted xj on the same tires. all about articulation, droop, and trimming
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:43 PM   #14
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Stock height would be even better, ifthat works. I actually saw that doorless Jeep when I was thinking about doing it.

So if I don't modify the suspension, all I'll need are bigger tires and trimmed fenders? Oh, and flares for legalities. Correct?

Also, as far as performance goes... Since when was the XJ a beastly performer anyways? :P

edit: droop?
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Unread 04-12-2010, 07:44 PM   #15
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tires, trimming, BUMPSTOPPING! and lots of it.
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