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Unread 01-13-2010, 04:34 PM   #1
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What do ya'll think of this craigslist Cherokee ? (10" lift, 35's, locked)

1998 JEEP CHEROKEE 10" LIFT

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1998 Jeep Cherokee, 218000 kms, 4.0 L Automatic, aircared till Jan 2012, Interior is literally mint, Everything works except the AC. This ride is a daily driver and is currently insured.

It has a custom 10" lift designed and built by IRONMAN 4X4 FABRICATION. The biggest lift available is a 8" by RUBICON and SKYJACKER. It is a short arm kit that uses Sky Jacker front coils and Pro Comp rear leafs and Pro Comp shocks and misc. custom Ironman parts to complete the lift.

Everything has been done: 4:88 gears, cromoly axle shafts, Detroit locker in rear, Spartan locker in front, driveshafts, brakes, all steering components, drag link, huge tie rod and ends, huge track bar brace, everything is over built, absolutly no bump steer, front end is all tight, tons of new parts, fresh alignment, you can go 120kms/hr on the highway no problem, 35" x 12.5" x 15" Pro Comp Mud Terrains, 15" x 8" Moab Rock Krawler steel rims, Dana 230 transfer case - not the weak part time 4x4 transfer case some of these Cherokees came with. Full 2.5 " exhaust with Thrush muffler, and a new cat. Hidden hitch with 2" receiver. Adjustable super-flex rear shackles. The offroad performance of this vehicle is INSANE. Of course there is some minor bush bash. No cracked windows and no leaks anywhere.

This seems to be the biggest Cherokee around and it is a must see. I have put countless time and money into this Jeep - there is nothing wrong with the vehicle at all. I hate to see it go but have recently started a business and need the money.

Asking $6900 open to reasonable offers.
I talked to the guy, he sent me some extra pictures. The outside looks decently clean, the suspension looks good, it's got high steer and oversized joints etc. It's running a short arm kit with no drop brackets. If I purchased it I'd probably convert it over to a rough country longarm setup.

The bad: Dana 35, detroit locker, chromoly shafts, 4.88 gears. I don't wheel hard, but is this a ticking timebomb ? I was under the impression that all the '98's had c8.25" rears in them

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Unread 01-13-2010, 04:39 PM   #2
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Some extra pics he sent me:





He says the tires are at 85%
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Unread 01-13-2010, 04:47 PM   #3
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offer $6
10 inch short arm lift..?
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Unread 01-13-2010, 04:50 PM   #4
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Steering and/or trac bar will need to be redone to eliminate bumpsteer IMHO. Those angles look terrible to me.
The steering also looks like a stock kind of setup, maybe he sleeved it and put bigger tre's on?
For my .02, it would need the steering done correctly and the trac bar redone to make it good on the road.
Offroad it needs long arms for sure, wonder how it rides with 10" of lift and short arms!
And doing all that with a turdy5 in the rear?
Possibly a good foundation, but if it way over what a low mile stocker is, give it a pass IMHO.

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Unread 01-13-2010, 04:56 PM   #5
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Let me count the way this thing sucks.

1. Looks way too high - price and lift. Ironman 4x4 obviously sucks. Who puts 10" of lift with short arms. Seriously?

2. As for the 'high steer', it's obviously just a RHD XJ drag link, so even if the tie rod end at the driver's side knuckle is big, it's still using the stockers on the passenger side knuckle, the tie rod end at the drag link, and the pitman arm. This setup is necessarily bad, but let's call a true high steer or super beefy steering system, it is not,

3. The track bar isn't anywhere near paralell with the drag link - probably has tons of bump steer.

4. There is no '230' t-case. There is a 231, but it's the part-time case. There is a 242, its about the same strength as the 242. No other T-cases were available in XJ's here in the US. I doubt they are different in Canada.

5. It has to ride, drive, and droop like crap with 10" of lift on short arms.

Plan to spend some money on this thing. The D35 and D30 will probably be ok if they actually have the chromoly shafts, but definitely at least truss the D35. Find out the spline count of the shafts and get the appropriate spares.

IMO, you could do a lot better with 7k.
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Unread 01-13-2010, 05:14 PM   #6
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Yeah, 10" is excessive. Especially in bc where everything seems to be off camber tippy type stuff. If I bought it I'd lower it down 3.5", add long arms, sell the arms on it, and then add armour. Of course, for that kind of money, a downpayment on a low miles rubicon sure starts to look attractive...
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Unread 01-13-2010, 05:21 PM   #7
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Yeah, 10" is excessive. Especially in bc where everything seems to be off camber tippy type stuff. If I bought it I'd lower it down 3.5", add long arms, sell the arms on it, and then add armour. Of course, for that kind of money, a downpayment on a low miles rubicon sure starts to look attractive...
You are making sense now.
I still dont think i would touch it myself. Looks like a LOT of headaches in the making to me.

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Unread 01-13-2010, 06:10 PM   #8
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damn and i thought i was asking for trouble running 5" on short arms. long arms are next on my list, that 35 is trouble..i knew a guy who blew one out on the freeway on 35s..that steering setup isnt much over stock, youd have to re-do that and whats he got for a driveline?
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Unread 01-13-2010, 06:14 PM   #9
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I agree, its not the worst cherokee i've seen by any means. With 7K i would just buy a stock XJ and do a much better build.
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Unread 01-13-2010, 06:25 PM   #10
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Well that's what I did. Bought a stock 98 Monty clean with less than 80k miles on it, spent all summer building it up, then it got stolen just before Christmas. Don't really feel like doing a complete build again. Ahh **** it I'm gonna go with the original plan and mildly build up a jk.
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Well that's what I did. Bought a stock 98 Monty clean with less than 80k miles on it, spent all summer building it up, then it got stolen just before Christmas. Don't really feel like doing a complete build again. Ahh **** it I'm gonna go with the original plan and mildly build up a jk.
I have been leaning this way for a long time. Simple, clean, big tires on a small lift. Lockers and D44/D60 from the factory.
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So you can order a JK with that combo?? We will be trading in our Rubicon next year or 2012 for a better engine option, hopefully. If this is available ill have to get it for sure...
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With those custom control arms it has to ride like a cadillac, and the front pinion angle looks spot on (isn't the pinion supposed to be 10 to 15 degrees lower than the driveshaft) I would drop 7,000 on that thing in a heart beat.
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With those custom control arms it has to ride like a cadillac, and the front pinion angle looks spot on (isn't the pinion supposed to be 10 to 15 degrees lower than the driveshaft) I would drop 7,000 on that thing in a heart beat.
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Unread 01-13-2010, 07:00 PM   #15
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I will give you $10 not to buy it.
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