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post #1 of 15 Old 09-07-2008, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Water Pump Pulley Seized

This morning I discovered my water pump pulley is seized. I whacked it a few times with a rubber mallet, and then with a standard hammer. I started it back up and it ran fine for a few seconds, then it got stuck again.

I'm pissed because at this point I don't have the time nor desire to work on my rig all day (I do have the tools and knowledge however). I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to get the pulley un-stuck so I could at least attempt to make it to my mechanics.

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post #2 of 15 Old 09-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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Do you have tow hooks on the front?
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Do you have tow hooks on the front?
Nope .

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This morning I discovered my water pump pulley is seized. I whacked it a few times with a rubber mallet, and then with a standard hammer. I started it back up and it ran fine for a few seconds, then it got stuck again.

I'm pissed because at this point I don't have the time nor desire to work on my rig all day (I do have the tools and knowledge however). I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to get the pulley un-stuck so I could at least attempt to make it to my mechanics.

Thanks guys .
Trying to run the engine with a stuck pulley is going to trash the belt, and maybe other stuff too.

Either suck it up and fix it yourself, or pay for a tow....

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Trying to run the engine with a stuck pulley is going to trash the belt, and maybe other stuff too.

Either suck it up and fix it yourself, or pay for a tow....
I realize that, that's why I asked if anyone had any ideas for freeing the pulley/pump. I'm not stupid enough to try and drive 4 miles with a stuck pulley, not to mention a water pump which isn't circulating coolant.

What's the usual rate for a tow? $60 hook-up and $3/mi?

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If you know someone with a truck and a hitch rent a tow dolly or car hauler from U-haul, rates run about $39 for a dolly to about $49 a day for a car hauler.
I rented a dolly once but only had a van to haul it since it was only a few miles I told them I was towing Honda Civic other wise it wont be a compatible match for towing and they wont rent it to you.

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I see in your sig that you DD a 5.7L HEMI Ram......got a hitch on the back of it?

If so, grab a uhaul dolley like mentioned, hook it up to the back of the truck and tow it on down the road to the shop.

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A water pump is at the MOST a 3 hour job, if you have no idea what you are doing AND screwing off. Belt off, two hoses, few bolts off, done.

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What's the usual rate for a tow? $60 hook-up and $3/mi?
Another option might be to hire a mechanic to make a house call. That might be cheaper than a tow truck, especially if it's an after work, off-the-clock arrangement.
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If you know someone with a truck and a hitch rent a tow dolly or car hauler from U-haul, rates run about $39 for a dolly to about $49 a day for a car hauler.
I rented a dolly once but only had a van to haul it since it was only a few miles I told them I was towing Honda Civic other wise it wont be a compatible match for towing and they wont rent it to you.
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I see in your sig that you DD a 5.7L HEMI Ram......got a hitch on the back of it?

If so, grab a uhaul dolley like mentioned, hook it up to the back of the truck and tow it on down the road to the shop.
Yep, I do have an '04 Hemi with a hitch. That is something that crossed my mind. Do they include tie-down straps in the $49 price? I can't seem to locate any of mine.

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A water pump is at the MOST a 3 hour job, if you have no idea what you are doing AND screwing off. Belt off, two hoses, few bolts off, done.
Ya, 3 hours I didn't have time for. I've changed a water pump before but I'm SURE this damn thing would fight me tooth and nail. Everything I've done to this so far has been a PITA.

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I thihnk you can't have it both ways. Power steering pump locked up is a good reason to take off the pump or have a tow. The other option is to remove the belt, drive the few miles to the mechanic and let them do thier work. Not to many options if you don't have the time to do it yourself.

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I thihnk you can't have it both ways. Power steering pump locked up is a good reason to take off the pump or have a tow.
Speaking of having it both ways, where did the locked up power steering pump come from?

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The other option is to remove the belt, drive the few miles to the mechanic and let them do thier work.
That could be an incredibly expensive option. Unless the trip is broken into several segments with lots of time for cooldown between each segment.

I had a belt break once about one mile into a drive. I had to drive another 1/4 mile to get safely off the road. By that time, the temp gauge was pegged to the hot side. Things ger hot fast when the coolant stops circulating.
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you know....water pumps really arnt too hard to do. I did mine when i first got my XJ...it seized up....it wasnt hard at all.

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Speaking of having it both ways, where did the locked up power steering pump come from?



That could be an incredibly expensive option. Unless the trip is broken into several segments with lots of time for cooldown between each segment.

I had a belt break once about one mile into a drive. I had to drive another 1/4 mile to get safely off the road. By that time, the temp gauge was pegged to the hot side. Things ger hot fast when the coolant stops circulating.
Power steering works like a champ .

The thought of removing the belt did cross my mind, then I realized how dumb that'd be. Driving w/o a fan might be do-able, driving w/o coolant circulation, no so much.

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you know....water pumps really arnt too hard to do. I did mine when i first got my XJ...it seized up....it wasnt hard at all.
Yep, I know. I've done the job a couple times before, I just don't have the time to do it now. School started (hrs of homework), I work in the afternoons, and I've got a few things going on the side. 3-4hrs is something I don't have at this point.

Also, just in case anybody is wondering, I had it towed over there this morning and just picked it up. My mechanic said it was once of the worst pumps he has seen, and I agreed. The impellers were digging into the case and the bearing was TOTALLY shot. $300 some odd dollars later, she runs like a champ.

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$300 for an $18 pump--wow! We just changed mine in the driveway--took right around two hours with my crappy tools.

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