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Old 08-25-2006, 11:08 PM   #1
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Toyota Axles????????????

A friend of mine with an 84 FJ60 recently rolled it and decieded to part it out. I can get these axles cheap. Has anyone ever heard of this swap or any other info on what it would take to complete it? Any sources would be appreciated. Also, what would be needed to make driveshafts? Could the stockers be modified? would it be worth the effort or would it end up being a worthless money pit? Could the jeep world forgive me for using toyota axles?? Am I just crazy?

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Old 08-25-2006, 11:12 PM   #2
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I think that is well outside the capability of most people to make driveshafts. You might look into a square driveshaft though, those are significantly easier to fab up than roundies. You'll have to find out what exactly the axles are. If the rear is a D35 (which I don't even know if they put in the old Fjs) then its not really worth it.

take some pictures and get some specs and we can tell you more about it
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:03 AM   #3
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Will get specs and pics tomorrow. They are definately not Dana 35's
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:30 AM   #4
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Hmmm.


Well, I'm not a toyota guy, Buuuuut.


The FJ-60 axles should be pretty much identical to the toyota truck axles. I think the front actually might have slightly different birfields and hubs, for good or bad I don't know. Anyways, you can run 35's on these axles all day long and not break them. This is coming from people that blew up D30 fronts and D44 rears on 31's, 32's and 33's.

You are, however, going to have a few hurdles. They are actually about 60" wide, so width isn't one of them. But, the pumpkin on the front is on the wrong side. This means a transfer case swap... A Jeep D20, or D300 would be the easiest. Unless you can adapt a NP231C (chevy) to a jeep tranny easily (doubt it). Also, just juding by the questions you're asking (not trying to be a dick), I doubt you lack the skill to fabricate the axle bracketry for the front 5-link Jeep suspension. And forget front leafs too, it gets just as complicated (ask me how I know...). The steering will also need some work.



The stock driveshafts most likely could be easily modified. The toyota yokes would have to be welded onto them and they may have to be lengthened/shortened as needed. You'll want a real driveline shop to do this. I know people who built their own shafts, but yeah, they're crazy.


Now, should you do it or not? I'll admit I've contemplaited it more than once, but, so far it has worked out easier not to. There's PLENTY of good axles out there, and they all can be had cheap if you know the right people.
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Old 08-26-2006, 04:56 AM   #5
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Buy them anyway and sell them to other Yota guys looking to do a SAS. They sell fairly fast.
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You are, however, going to have a few hurdles. They are actually about 60" wide, so width isn't one of them. But, the pumpkin on the front is on the wrong side. This means a transfer case swap... A Jeep D20, or D300 would be the easiest. Unless you can adapt a NP231C (chevy) to a jeep tranny easily (doubt it). Also, just juding by the questions you're asking (not trying to be a dick), I doubt you lack the skill to fabricate the axle bracketry for the front 5-link Jeep suspension. And forget front leafs too, it gets just as complicated (ask me how I know...). The steering will also need some work.



The stock driveshafts most likely could be easily modified. The toyota yokes would have to be welded onto them and they may have to be lengthened/shortened as needed. You'll want a real driveline shop to do this. I know people who built their own shafts, but yeah, they're crazy.

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All Chevy 231's are driver's drop too.

The Toy axles are very strong. Drop out 3rd's are great. The pinion has a flange, so you can always redrill it to accept whatever you want. However, the toy u-joints are great. Very strong (right up there with 1410's) and can go up to 37*. So keeping the toy joint is not a bad thing!

-Yes there is a conversion joint, a 1310 to toy joint made by Rockford, but it is generally not looked on with favor since it is not very strong.

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Old 08-26-2006, 11:34 AM   #7
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Whoops, forgot that. I never look at aluminum tcases in the boneyard.
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