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Unread 01-24-2011, 11:59 AM   #1
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Tire size

I am new to this forum and was wanting to ask for some advice. I am getting a 3" lift installed on my 93 xj and was wondering what is the largest tire that i could fit? Also what brand would you recommend. I want a agressive looking tire. thanks

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Unread 01-24-2011, 12:54 PM   #2
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31x10.50 if you don't want to trim the fenders. If you trim the fenders you can easily fit 33's. The goodyear duratrac's are an aggressive tire that performs well.
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how aggressive of a tire? A/T? M/T?

I have the Firestone Destination M/Ts, and absolutely love them (bought them 3 times in a row). Traction and treadwear are fantastic.
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Unread 01-25-2011, 04:46 AM   #4
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I was wanting a M/T at a decent price any suggestions? Could i run 32's without any fender trim? thanks
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Unread 01-25-2011, 05:38 AM   #5
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more then likely on a 3" but youll need a properly backspaced rim and the only place you could rub at that point would most likely be on the UCAs at full lock.
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I was wanting a M/T at a decent price any suggestions? Could i run 32's without any fender trim? thanks
Just trim and run 33s. You've got a much better selection on tires anyway on that size. If you get 33 x 10.50s they don't even stick out that far from the fenders.

Or you could go for 32 x 11.50 or 265/75 R16 (that's around 32 x 10.50), but the difference in diameter to 33s is so minor that if you rub 33s, you will most likely rub 32s.
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Unread 01-25-2011, 10:42 AM   #7
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If i were you, i would run 31's so you have a good amount of flex. Im speaking from personal experience, i have 2 inches on 31's and everyday i wish i had gone 3 with 31's for the flex lol
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I was just wanting something that made the jeep look wider and filled in the wheel wells. I have SS tsl 29's on it now and am getting the rough country 3" lift on the jeep monday and I know those are going to look small after i get the lift so was trying to figure out which tire to go with.
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If i were you, i would run 31's so you have a good amount of flex. Im speaking from personal experience, i have 2 inches on 31's and everyday i wish i had gone 3 with 31's for the flex lol
Uumh, so you mean that 1" extra lift is really gonna make that much difference on your flex? It won't, you only have about 1" more uptravel in case you do not need to bumpstop more with the added lift height. Flex does not only come from lift height, it's a combination of pretty much everything; amount of travel in the coil spring (meaning, how long coil spring, what's the spring rate), amount of travel in your shocks, amount of bumpstopping, type of control arms, amount of trimming so you don't hit fenders/ wheel wells. Do you want me to continue?

You can make a 3" lift work with 32s or 33s pretty easily, and still have reasonable amount of flex, and both up- and downtravel. And flex isn't everything, it's a combination of all beforementioned things that make your rig to behave properly both on the highways and wheeling.

32s can be pretty easily stuffed inside XJ wheel wells if you trim the front (you may need to pound in the pinch seam at teh back of the wheelwell); most propably you will not be hitting the corners under battery tray and airbox. 33s are closer, but should still fit OK. Get wheels that have proper backspacing and you won't be rubbing the LCAs @ full lock or the shock towers @ maximum front articulation much at all. If you have adjustable LCAs and UCAs, you can easily move your front axle about 1" forward to fine-tune the suspension. Bumpstop the amount you need, propably 2" should be enough with 32s or 33s.

And the back? Couldn't be easier, remove rear flares, cut 'n fold the rear fender lip and be done with it. Add longer bumpstop at the back if needed.

Doing this you will still have more up- and downtravel than stock, you will have more flex if you have aftermarket CAs and longer shocks (remove the rear swaybar, add discos in the front), and you can stuff your tires inside the wheel wells enough without rubbing.

I've run 35s on 4" lift, rubbing only on the coil towers up front, and the said corners behind the front bezel before I trimmed & patched them. I was running 3" of bumpstopping up front, about 2" WB stretch and long arms. Rear was cut & fold, and bumpstopped about teh same as front. No rubbing in the rear at all.

So cut the BS on sticking with 31s on 3" lift and not having enough flex. It's all about the whole setup of the Jeep, not just the lift height and tire size.
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got any pics of the 4" lift with 35s? I'm interested to see since i'll be looking at a 4.5" lift soon hopefully
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Unread 01-25-2011, 12:27 PM   #11
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I didn't see anyone above mentioning wheel backspacing. I'm running 31x10.5 on stock rims w/ 3" of lift. My rears will rub slightly on the inside lip of the fenders flares at max compression, so I'd say that 31's are about as big as you can go without trimming. Also, on the front, my tires will rub on my lower control arms when turning hard. In the future, I'm planning to buy aftermarket wheel w/ more backspacing to solve this issue.
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Hey now, go easy on me Timo, im still learning all this. I was just trying to help a little.
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Hey now, go easy on me Timo, im still learning all this. I was just trying to help a little.
Yup, we all have to do that some time. Didn't mean no harm, just giving you and the OP some info on this


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got any pics of the 4" lift with 35s? I'm interested to see since i'll be looking at a 4.5" lift soon hopefully
My avatar is of the said lift + tire setup, and there are some wheeling pictures on my gallery. Here's the link (which also shows what can happen when you flip an XJ with 35s @ 10mph ):

http://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/sho...y.php?cat=2096

I was running RE 4.5" coils up front, with OME 2.5" HD packs + 1.5" lift shackle in the rear. Front was measuring 4" true lift over stock with all the stuff installed & welded to my XJ; rear could've used ~1" more lift since it was slightly sagging compared to front. I was going to fab & install shackle relocation boxes for better shackle angles and a bit of lift, but never got to that before tearing down the whole thing and starting the big build for 1-tons.
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1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,... ***SOLD***
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Unread 01-25-2011, 12:52 PM   #14
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you didn't have to trim the outer fender arch at all to fit those? whoh.
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You mean in the rear? Yes, I trimmed it using the normal cut & fold method

But I welded a 1" x 1/4" flat steel bar to give the fender/ wheel well edge some extra strenght.
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