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Time to beef things up! - - a build thread of sorts
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Time to beef things up! - - a build thread of sorts
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page 1: Intro / T&T (now Treks) frame stiffeners and belly pan / RE's Rubicon Gray paint matching page 2: TMR front frame stiffeners page 3: new exhaust page 4: exhaust sound clip / T&T Y-Link suspension - flex testing page 5: beginning of door removal page 6: door hinge modification page 7: 2x6 rocker replacements page 8 page 9: rocker completion / shortening doors 1.75" page 10 page 11 page 12: side mirror solution for when doorless page 13 page 14: trail testing / limiting straps page 15: rear suspension overhaul / custom shackle relocation boxes page 16: video clip: came down hard on the frame rail / corrected pinion angle / modified my tire carrier page 17: sleeving the Dana 30 / new LCA mounts page 18: trail testing photos page 19 page 20 page 21 page 22: bodywork and prepping for paint page 23: new paint job - Patriot Blue to Desert Tan page 24 page 25 page 26: link to cage build thread page 27 page 28 page 29 page 30 page 31: new rear bumper ------------------------------------------------ Its finally time for some more upgrades to my Jeep. I've been running the same setup for a couple years and have been pleased with how it has performed. But I know that the types of trails I like to do (like the Rubicon and similar trails) will take its toll on the unibody - its only a matter of time. If I want the Jeep to last, I need to beef things up. This round of upgrades will take a while to complete and I'm already into it a couple weeks. But I thought I'd start a 'Build Thread' so you can see what I'm up to and it will hopefully add some more real tech to this forum. So here is a recent pic of my Jeep. ![]() Without listing all the specs (which can be seen on my site), I'm basically running the RE 5.5" kit with 35's. The suspension is the short-arm kit with drop brackets. I got this in '04 I think before many of the long-arm kits were on the market. Here you can see it flexes great. This is also the stuff that is hard on the unibody: ![]() Because it has performed well I haven't needed to upgrade so I've basically been waiting until the suspension wore out to the point it really needs to be replaced. I've also held off on a few other things because this project is like a 'Pandora's Box' because once I start with one upgrade I will be forced to change other parts of the rig too to make it work. So I've been amassing parts in my garage until I could take the Jeep out of service for a while to do this. What I am going to do is strengthen the unibody, starting with plating the frame rails, upgrade the suspension, new rocker protection and exhaust and some other things as I go along. So lets get things started... Here's what I have now. ![]() Those are Rocky Road "step rails" that I beefed up because the rails flexed up into my rockers. I was also running Rusty's transfer case skid but I already removed it before I took the above pic. Luckily everything I had was bolted on to the frame rails and not welded because it is all that much easier to remove. I'm going to scrap the rails and do something different rather than try and fit these back on after the frame rails are plated. Here's a shot of the drop brackets. All that crap has got to go! ![]() Next was to prep the frame rails by removing the undercoating and paint. Theres so many holes it looks like swiss cheese. ![]() Prepping the frame rails SUCKED. It was a horrible dirty job and when I was done I had black undercoat dust all over including my face (even with wearing a mask), and the worst of it was I got a particle in my eye that took about 2 hours to get out. I used the T&T Customs frame rail stiffeners and really glad I got them. I would definitely get them again if I was going to plate another XJ. I added my own 1/2" holes (rosettes) for plug welding. ![]()
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Eric 2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and stock AM/FM cassette My website - EricsXJ.com
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Here's the passenger side. You can see I stitch welded the perimeter and plug welded the sides and bottom. I left a couple holes to allow water to drain out of the frame rails. I put the crossmember back on and drove it a couple days to work. I could already feel quite a bit more stiffness to the unibody.
![]() Next was more drilling to install the T&T belly pan. I'm also going with their Y-link long arm upgrade. The drilling was that much worse because I had to go through not only the stock frame rails and interior supports, but the 3/16" stiffeners as well. My 3/4" hole saw worked well for this but it still took about a day for all the drilling. ![]() More crap to remove! I figured removing the exhaust now would make the belly pan easier to install. I need and want a new exaust anyway.![]() What I took off = Dynomax Super Turbo and stock Cat What I am going to put on = Magnaflow muffler and Dynomax universal high-flow cat (both purchased at Summit Racing) and 2.5" pipe throughout. ![]() Problem #1 ![]() ![]() When I tried to mount the belly pan, the exhaust pipe before the Cat was hitting the control arm bracket. I spent a couple hours clearancing that bracket with a dremel which was all pointles anyway and a waste of time (more on that later). Why I had this problem is because... well look at the other side: ![]() See the exhaust hanger? Its tweeked bad thanks to a trail I ran at night and got some big boulders under the rig that was also responsible for the dents in the muffler and cat. It really jacked up my exhaust and it was never the same. Oh yeah and before I forget... Problem #2 ![]() I'm glad I tried to install the upper half of the control arms before mounting up the belly pan. But I couldn't get the bolts through the mounts because the holes were slightly off. Not only was one side off, but both mounts were the same thing. (Damn you T&T quality control...) I had to drill out one hole of each mount from 9/16" to 5/8" to get the bolts through. But thinking positively, if I had not tried to mount the arms first, I would have gone mad trying to install the arms with the belly pan in place. So after that ordeal I finally got the belly pan installed. Not only is it stronger than what I had before (stock crossmember and Rusty's skid) but I have more clearance under the rig. I didn't paint the whole thing yet because I have more welding to do. ![]() more to come tomorrow....
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Eric 2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and stock AM/FM cassette My website - EricsXJ.com
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cant wait to see how this works out, looks great
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87 XJ pioneer-Totalled 96 XJ Sport- Sold Now: 88 RENIX 4.0 XJ, Project Overlander 3.5" Lift, RE SF LCA's with skids, 31x10.50R15 Duratracs, ARB Roofrack, Custom Bumper, Glasspack, Bored TB, Custom seats |
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![]() I had to re-drill one of the holes when I installed mine too, but it wasn't TnT's fault, I measured from the wrong x-member bolt hole.... ![]()
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2001 XJ RE 5.5 ED w/T&T Y-link longarm, 37" MTR's, D44/D60, ARB's, Rubicon Tcase, and all the usual junk. Axle swaps & build thread: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/rebuilding-front-dana-44-a-397243/ |
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any plans to extend the unibody plating further back and forward? from what ive read, having just the tnt stiffeners will focus the stress more on the ends of it (where it meets weak stock unibody) and you will be more prone to problems there.
i am not looking forward to putting my stiffeners on this week... ugh
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97 xj 44 front, detroit, alloyed 60 rear, detroit, 35 spline alloyed 35" beadlocked km2's 3" midarmed more bells and whistles than you can shake a stick at |
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And don't worry I have plenty of very scary welds that I will be posting later...Quote:
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Eric 2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and stock AM/FM cassette My website - EricsXJ.com
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I can tell that this is going to evolve into a very good thread. I've always admired Eric's XJ and there will be lots of good ideas coming here.
Just hope Eric has the time to keep us all updated!
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1998 XJ RE 4.5 inch superflex lift, RE GEN2 disconnects, 15x8 Crager 352's, 33x12.5x15 BFG MT, ARB Lockers Front and Rear, 4.56 Diffs, Cut & Tap Short Shaft Conversion, CV Rear Prop, B&M Transmission Cooler and Gauge, Bushwackers Cut-Outs, Skid Row Armor, AJ's SuperRails, LeBaron Hood Vents, KargoMaster Rack, Safari Snorkel, KC Daylighters, Midland CB, Brantz Navigation Loads a mud!! |
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what front bumper is that?
your jeep is pretty sick
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2000 xj Lifted, Locked 1996 xj my dd "I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy who says shenaningans!"
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Hey Eric, i was just re-looking at your amazing rig, but did i see a jack stand with a brick on the end of it on your bellhousing or oil pan? Or is that a skid plate there?
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87 XJ pioneer-Totalled 96 XJ Sport- Sold Now: 88 RENIX 4.0 XJ, Project Overlander 3.5" Lift, RE SF LCA's with skids, 31x10.50R15 Duratracs, ARB Roofrack, Custom Bumper, Glasspack, Bored TB, Custom seats |
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you have a sexxy rig...
![]() hopefully mine will grow up to be like it someday hahaha darkblue 2000 aswell ![]() |
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what do you plan on doing with the rock sliders?
i could take them off your hands
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North Jersey Jeep Club Member- #83 www.northjerseyjeepclub.org the rig: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8980/jeep2xq0.jpg CHECK OUT MY BAND- www.myspace.com/myrtleave |
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subscribing to the build.....
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89 xj 5.5 rubicon express,34" swamper ltb's |
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Now time for today's posting...
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Eric 2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and stock AM/FM cassette My website - EricsXJ.com
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Time to drop the front axle and remove the suspension.
![]() Here's what my LCAs looked like. Time to replace and upgrade. ![]() I figured while I had everything apart it would be a good idea to paint my coils. I got lucky and found that Rustoleum 7786 Smoke Gray is an EXACT match to Rubicon Gray. ![]() More frame rail prep. Thankfully this time it was just paint and no undercoating... ![]() Any guesses as to what comes next? Tune in tomorrow evening to find out. ![]()
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Eric 2000 XJ "PROJECT RUBICON" lifted, locked, shafted, running 35's, 4.56 gears, pair of ARB's, and stock AM/FM cassette My website - EricsXJ.com
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ooo...oooo I know!!!!
Front stiffeners from ![]()
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89 xj 5.5 rubicon express,34" swamper ltb's |
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