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Unread 02-27-2013, 04:44 AM   #46
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Alright thank you. I'm just trying to figure out which one i should buy so I don't have to worry about it in the future.
We use mostly IR Ti- series air guns at my like I wrote above, and they get used HARD - that is, thrown around the ships deck a couple dozen times a day, they see salt, grime, rust, grease, all kinds of crap, and temps ranging between -20*F... +90*F. We torque and untorque a few hundred chain lashing speedlock bolts each day, and they just keep on going. Can't really say a bad thing about 'em.

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The IR is rated at 780 ft/ibs of max torque. Costs $259. (Amazon says it normally costs $434.)

Snap on one is rated at 1,190 max break away and a recommended 810 ft/ibs. Costs $459. I'm leaning towards that one.
That's what their marketing departments say True ratings are somewhat different, I wouldn't trust those numbers on any air impact gun no matter who manufactures it. Dunno if they measure 'em at well over 10bar tank pressure or what, but I think I've never seen a 1/2" impact that actually delivers the torque ratings they promise. However, they usually are very powerful if you've got a good compressor that generates enough air volume and preferrably 10bar (whatever that is in PSI) pressure. Expect a big drop in torque ratings if you have a small compressor.


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You have any advice for buying a 1/4" impact? Would you go with an air ratchet or air impact for 1/4"? Or both?
I've never felt I need a 1/4" air impact or air ratchet, so can't really say.

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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:36 PM   #47
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Snap on one is rated at 1,190 max break away and a recommended 810 ft/ibs. Costs $459. I'm leaning towards that one.

You have any advice for buying a 1/4" impact? Would you go with an air ratchet or air impact for 1/4"? Or both?
The ratings on impact wrenches are dependent on the pressure AND FLOW at the tool being a specified value. If you connect that same tool to a 50 ft. 3/8" diameter hose, the max. torque is WAY, WAY less. Just be forwarned, as you can spend a ton of money on the tool, and get poor results if you don't supply it correctly.

Impact wrenches in the 1/4" range are pretty much useless. You will RARELY see a bolt that 1/4" drive stuff is used on that is tight enough to warrant air tools, unless you are in a production environment and are installing 150 of them per day.

For "lightweight" work, I prefer a 3/8" drive "butterfly" impact for doing stuff like water pump removal, differential covers, etc. It's big enough to do the lower torque bolts, but not so big as to be likely to snap stuff off.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:48 PM   #48
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While I'm sure that Snap-On impacts are nice, I've bought IR on the recommendation of several professional mechanics (who have a fair amount of other snap-on tools), and have not been disappointed. That 1190 ft-lbs "max break away" is probably similar to IR's claim of 1000ft-lbs of "Nut busting torque" (seen on the IR 2135 Ti), in that it isn't a real, measurable rating. IR's "nut busting torque" said that it would break a nut loose tightened to 1000 ft-lbs in 6 seconds. So I would just ignore those numbers.

780 isn't that much different than 810. Is 30 ft-lbs worth 200 dollars to you? Especially considering IR has a rock solid reputation?

(FWIW, I have an IR 2131 that has been used and abused, rebuilt it a few years ago for 50-75 bucks and on it goes, and an IR 2135 Ti that has been flawless)

Rebuild kits for the IR stuff are available on Amazon for under 40 bucks usually as well.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:37 PM   #49
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He's got 1 bar of air to fill 2 lungs to power 2 arms. Perhaps its time to use the jeep and its 2 tons of weight and roll that nut loose. Just a hair. With a breaker bar.. and no bystanders.
That's what I was thinking. The jeep can break the nut loose.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 06:27 PM   #50
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Well I managed to replace the U-joint with a heck of a lot of hammering and a few gallons of elbow grease. As I was putting everything back on, I noticed that when spinning the hub, there is a clunk, clunk, clunk sound coming from somewhere around the tranny. Might be normal, but I don't think I've heard it before. Any ideas?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 10:19 PM   #51
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Well I managed to replace the U-joint with a heck of a lot of hammering and a few gallons of elbow grease. As I was putting everything back on, I noticed that when spinning the hub, there is a clunk, clunk, clunk sound coming from somewhere around the tranny. Might be normal, but I don't think I've heard it before. Any ideas?

Like the transfer case?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 11:05 PM   #52
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Yeah, upon further inspection that is where it's coming from. Maybe the u-joint there is bad too... There is sone spin play in the front shaft.
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Unread 02-28-2013, 10:14 AM   #53
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Yeah, upon further inspection that is where it's coming from. Maybe the u-joint there is bad too... There is sone spin play in the front shaft.
How much? Half an inch or so is normal
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Unread 02-28-2013, 03:18 PM   #54
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It not a lot, so I guess this is normal. Replacing the u-joint has stopped most of the pops and clicks in the steering, but there is still some creaking and the steering wheel is occasionally stiff on tight, slow turns... Bad rack and pinion maybe?
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Unread 03-01-2013, 07:24 PM   #55
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No rack, just a steering box. Depends on the noise. Have you checked the PS fluid?
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