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Unread 04-06-2005, 09:31 AM   #1
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strange squeaking noise when turning - can't pinpoint

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So as my title mentions, I have this very strange squeaking noise when turning left or right, as if into a parking space or around a corner. Its a simple squeak-squeak-squeak noise that I can't place. At first I thought it was my power steering pump, and since adding fluid didn't fix it, I completely replaced it. Unfortuantely, that wasn't it. My s-belt isn't too terribly old (no more than 30K-40K on it) and is only showing slight signs of cracking, no fraying whatsoever. It is not loose either.

Also, it is an inconsistent sound and doesn't seem to matter if the engine is hot or cold. Somedays it will happen around every turn, others, not at all. Is there anything else anyone can think of that might be the issue? Can wheel bearings squeak if old and worn? I bought a new belt today but I hate this hit and miss type of diagnosing, so if anyone has any thoughts, they would be much appreciated. thanks.

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Unread 04-06-2005, 09:37 AM   #2
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Have you checked out all your bushings? Do you get the noise when you're articulating(sp?) in a straight line? Could be any number of things. You could be rubbing just slightly at full turns. But I wouldn't think that, that's the issue. I would say you need grease somewhere or you need a new bushing somewhere upfront.
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Unread 04-06-2005, 10:41 AM   #3
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I would say you need grease somewhere or you need a new bushing somewhere upfront.
If it's a steering noise, that would be my suggestion, as well. A friend at work had a similar noise (2000 XJ, I think it was), & it turned out to need some grease--it was either some component in the steering column or the front end (i.e. the bushings mentioned are some of them greaseable). Some bushings may rot away, requiring replacement.

But the description as a 'squeak-squeak-squeak' makes it sound like it's not a steering noise but a wheel noise? You mentioned bearings, but bearings (usually) don't squeak so much as grind when they're going bad. I don't think bad balljoints would squeak like that, either.

Maybe, like crashod suggested, it's just some component of the steering or suspension rubbing the wheel--in which case, have someone drive the Jeep for you, slowly turning at full lock, while you watch & listen from outside the vehicle. Or just turn the wheels to full lock yourself while parked, & look underneath--if something's making contact with the wheel, I would assume it would be visible under those conditions. Otherwise, look at all the front end components near the wheels, & see whether any of the parts look like they've been scraped/bent/damaged by contact w/the wheels.
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Unread 04-12-2005, 08:27 AM   #4
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Ok, so this past weekend I took off my front tires and greased every lube point up as best I could, checked the wheel too see if anything was rubbing it, nothing. I did notice, however, there are a number of rubber bushings that are quite dried and cracked. Just the simple greasing did nothing. Still the same squeak-squeak-squeak. I also did as mentioned, and had someone drive in a circle around me while I tried to figure out where this noise was coming from. I failed to pinpoint its source.

Think its a problem with one of the bushings needing replacing? I don't really understand though how if a bushing is bad how it will generate this squeaking noise while turning.
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Unread 04-12-2005, 08:37 AM   #5
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If the squeeking noise varies speed and goes faster as you go faster around a corner, it's a universal joint at one of the wheels. One of the 4 bearing cups is dry and binding enough to make the noise.
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Unread 04-12-2005, 08:56 AM   #6
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I will check that when I go to lunch today...
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Unread 04-12-2005, 09:00 AM   #7
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I get a squeaking noise when I turn too...but it doesnt happen ALL the time and only when turning. But it sounds like its coming from the steering column itself. I really havent thought to try to fix it...I figured it was just part of the steering column rubbing against some plastic or something...
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Unread 04-12-2005, 09:05 AM   #8
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I get a squeaking noise when I turn too...but it doesnt happen ALL the time and only when turning. But it sounds like its coming from the steering column itself. I really havent thought to try to fix it...I figured it was just part of the steering column rubbing against some plastic or something...
I think I am familliar with the squeak you're talking about. I get one from within my steering column too when its cold out. That one is more of an interior noise, IMO. This is definitely different and on the outside of the vehicle. Loud enough that when I'm turning into a parking space or something like that people look.
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Unread 04-12-2005, 09:33 AM   #9
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I think I am familliar with the squeak you're talking about. I get one from within my steering column too when its cold out. That one is more of an interior noise, IMO. This is definitely different and on the outside of the vehicle. Loud enough that when I'm turning into a parking space or something like that people look.
Im pretty sure that interior noise is from that rubber splash guard thingy around the steering wheel. Mine squeeks when its cold too.
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Unread 04-12-2005, 03:52 PM   #10
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mine squeeks when i'm turning, and from what i've seen when i looked at it i need new front u joints, they are shot completely
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Unread 06-08-2005, 12:08 PM   #11
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delayed update as I just thought about this today for some reason. But it was the ujoint after all. My right one was trashed.
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