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Unread 09-18-2008, 10:46 AM   #1
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Short arm or long arm lift for XJ

I'm looking for a larger lift on my '94 Cherokee Sport. It already has a 3 "econo" lift and I'm looking for something along the lines of 4.5 to 5.5 inches of lift, and I can find all kinds, only the prices vary extreme amounts between long arm and short arm lifts... All I'm going to be doing is mostly trail running and very minimal amounts of rock crawling so would there be any real advantage to spending the extra cash for a long arm kit, or should I just save some money and get a short arm?

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Unread 09-18-2008, 10:48 AM   #2
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At 5.5" on a standard short arm, your ride will suffer. The control arm drop brackets are a great alternative. I love mine, running about 6" of lift.
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Unread 09-18-2008, 11:03 AM   #3
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At 5.5" on a standard short arm, your ride will suffer. The control arm drop brackets are a great alternative. I love mine, running about 6" of lift.
Any chance you could link me to a set? I had a notion, and was already informed that the ride would suffer (due to the arms wanting to be pushed back rather than up)... If I do use the drop brackets, would it be as flexible or nearly as flexible as a long arm or am I just asking stupid questions, now?
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Unread 09-18-2008, 11:08 AM   #4
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short arm all the wayget a 4.5 inch lift... more than enough of what your planning on doing... you can make ur jeep 100x better than some mallcrawlers w/ long arms if you put the money into A)new axle B)gears C) lockers
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Unread 09-18-2008, 11:15 AM   #5
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My drop brackets flex awesome. Not quite as good as some long arm kits, but I don't get left behind because of it. The Rubicon Express 5.5" kit comes with the drop brackets, IIRC.

http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=E590417394435

for the kit including the DB's.

http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=E590417394435
just the brackets

http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=E590417394435
braces for the brackets (a must have)

I heard TrailMaster also makes the drop brackets and braces. I bought mine used from another jeeper here on the forum, no problems thus far. Drives great at 85mph!
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Unread 09-18-2008, 11:18 AM   #6
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Thanks for the quick replies guys- I guess the way to go is the short arm kit... At my local 4x4 supplier (not really local, but not too terribly far away), they have a Rubicon Express 5.5 inch complete set including drop brackets... And at 1,500 bucks doesn't sound too bad...
About lockers, though- I heard ARB has some nice lockers. Can anyone confirm this?
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Unread 09-18-2008, 11:25 AM   #7
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http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xj_4.html#winch These are a lot cheaper than the RE's
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Unread 09-18-2008, 12:01 PM   #8
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http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xj_4.html#winch These are a lot cheaper than the RE's
Thanks, xjfever, but that doesn't really seem to be on the same level of quality though yes, it is much cheaper. I think I'll stick with the Rubicon as my choice.
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Unread 09-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #9
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If I do use the drop brackets, would it be as flexible or nearly as flexible as a long arm or am I just asking stupid questions, now?
Sounds like you've already made your decision (a good one), but to answer this question in particular -- it really depends on everything else in the suspension. For example, if you compare the RE 5.5" short arm kit with the DBs vs the RE long-arm kit, both will flex the same amount. This is because the only difference in the kits is the arms, and the arms aren't the limiting factor for those kits -- the shocks and trackbar are. Long-arms have the potential for greater wheel travel though, if you change up other parts of the suspension.

Check with that local supplier to see if you're getting any shocks with the kit at that price.
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Unread 09-18-2008, 01:13 PM   #10
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Chances are good that your local supplier will charge more. Most of us buy online. I have had good experiences with Chris at offroadtoystore.com. The give free Rubicon twintubes with every lift kit, and used to do free shipping as well (they probably still do). It's worth your time to call around. Also, in most states you can still avoid the tax by buying on-line.

I've heard nothing but good things about Jeepin.com, but have never purchased anything there myself.

With my drop brackets and 33's, I have more than enough wheel travel.
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