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Unread 11-27-2010, 08:33 PM   #91
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I can't believe how much rust you guys in the Salt Belt have to put up with. So I just have to ask this... why don't you guys take a few days off work, pull a trailer out here to southern California and buy a junkyard Jeep?

Our junkyards are full of Cherokees and Grands, that are there simply because they have 200,000 miles and a blown engine. Or a blown tranny. But NO rust. None. I know it may be hard to believe, but cars (and Jeeps!) simply don't rust here. When I go to my local junkyard to pull some parts, I don't even bring penetrating oil. I just take the parts off with wrenches and sockets.

Why not buy a rust-free Jeep, take it home, and transfer everything out of your rust-bucket and into the good Jeep? Too much work? I dunno, it sure sounds easier than fixing all that rust! Cullen, good job with the floor, BTW.

Sorry to hijack, but I had to ask...

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Unread 11-27-2010, 09:10 PM   #92
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I can't believe how much rust you guys in the Salt Belt have to put up with. So I just have to ask this... why don't you guys take a few days off work, pull a trailer out here to southern California and buy a junkyard Jeep?
Since when does owning a jeep have anything to do with common sense???
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Unread 11-27-2010, 09:11 PM   #93
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I can't believe how much rust you guys in the Salt Belt have to put up with. So I just have to ask this... why don't you guys take a few days off work, pull a trailer out here to southern California and buy a junkyard Jeep?

Our junkyards are full of Cherokees and Grands, that are there simply because they have 200,000 miles and a blown engine. Or a blown tranny. But NO rust. None. I know it may be hard to believe, but cars (and Jeeps!) simply don't rust here. When I go to my local junkyard to pull some parts, I don't even bring penetrating oil. I just take the parts off with wrenches and sockets.

Why not buy a rust-free Jeep, take it home, and transfer everything out of your rust-bucket and into the good Jeep? Too much work? I dunno, it sure sounds easier than fixing all that rust! Cullen, good job with the floor, BTW.

Sorry to hijack, but I had to ask...

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Home of the world's largest beach. No water, just lots and lots of sand...
Its worth it for classic cars and vehicles that have a pretty high value.
Cherokees end up hacked up anyway so its usually not worth teh effort.
A hauler from out west will run you up to $1000 and the vehicle will be bought sight unseen usually. Ive bought 2 Arizona Torino bodies.
One had some rust under the vinyl top, the other I am driving now and its fine. I do think cars that lived here all their lives blow out badly but when you get a western car and drive it here they seem to rust faster.

Besides when you buy rust free you miss out on fixing stuff like this



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Unread 11-27-2010, 09:55 PM   #94
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I can't believe how much rust you guys in the Salt Belt have to put up with. So I just have to ask this... why don't you guys take a few days off work, pull a trailer out here to southern California and buy a junkyard Jeep?

Our junkyards are full of Cherokees and Grands, that are there simply because they have 200,000 miles and a blown engine. Or a blown tranny. But NO rust. None. I know it may be hard to believe, but cars (and Jeeps!) simply don't rust here. When I go to my local junkyard to pull some parts, I don't even bring penetrating oil. I just take the parts off with wrenches and sockets.

Why not buy a rust-free Jeep, take it home, and transfer everything out of your rust-bucket and into the good Jeep? Too much work? I dunno, it sure sounds easier than fixing all that rust! Cullen, good job with the floor, BTW.

Sorry to hijack, but I had to ask...

Bill
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Home of the world's largest beach. No water, just lots and lots of sand...
because the stock design is the problem, not just the rust, why fix it when you can improve it dramatically.

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Its worth it for classic cars and vehicles that have a pretty high value.
Cherokees end up hacked up anyway so its usually not worth teh effort.
A hauler from out west will run you up to $1000 and the vehicle will be bought sight unseen usually. Ive bought 2 Arizona Torino bodies.
One had some rust under the vinyl top, the other I am driving now and its fine. I do think cars that lived here all their lives blow out badly but when you get a western car and drive it here they seem to rust faster.

Besides when you buy rust free you miss out on fixing stuff like this



thats perfect. I'd rock it just like that
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Unread 11-27-2010, 10:05 PM   #95
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im much happier with tons of tach welds on the bottom side than plug welds.
the factory design was very, very, very poor.
isnt most chrysler product?
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Unread 11-28-2010, 04:32 AM   #96
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ive thought about purchasing a southern vehicle. up here in maine evrything is just about rotted. it sucks. seems like every jeep is rotted aswell unless u pay big money for it
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Unread 11-28-2010, 06:35 AM   #97
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I can't believe how much rust you guys in the Salt Belt have to put up with. So I just have to ask this... why don't you guys take a few days off work, pull a trailer out here to southern California and buy a junkyard Jeep?
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Its worth it for classic cars and vehicles that have a pretty high value.
Cherokees end up hacked up anyway so its usually not worth teh effort.
A hauler from out west will run you up to $1000 and the vehicle will be bought sight unseen usually. Ive bought 2 Arizona Torino bodies.
One had some rust under the vinyl top, the other I am driving now and its fine. I do think cars that lived here all their lives blow out badly but when you get a western car and drive it here they seem to rust faster.
old cars sent to warmer weather werent rust proofed
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Unread 11-28-2010, 06:48 AM   #98
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im much happier with tons of tach welds on the bottom side than plug welds.
the factory design was very, very, very poor.
whats the difference between plug and tac?
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Unread 11-28-2010, 07:14 AM   #99
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whats the difference between plug and tac?
A plug is where you have a hole in metal, lay it over other metal, then fill hole bonding the two pieces together. This is from a welder that is only qualified to weld scrap metal together.
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Unread 11-28-2010, 07:38 AM   #100
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old cars sent to warmer weather werent rust proofed

Both my Torino's were rustproofed exactly like the Michigan ones I've had. Poorly. Yet the AZ cars flashed up fast. I POR 15'd everything right after that
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Unread 11-28-2010, 09:07 AM   #101
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Both my Torino's were rustproofed exactly like the Michigan ones I've had. Poorly. Yet the AZ cars flashed up fast. I POR 15'd everything right after that
Probably because the sun of those climates breaks down the paint microscopically ?
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Unread 11-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #102
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isnt most chrysler product?
Uhhhhhhh.............are you aware that the XJ is NOT A CHRYSLER DESIGN?

It was designed and introduced by AMERICAN MOTORS in 1984.....

Chrysler bought AMC and interited the XJ in 1988.
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Unread 11-28-2010, 03:25 PM   #103
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Uhhhhhhh.............are you aware that the XJ is NOT A CHRYSLER DESIGN?

It was designed and introduced by AMERICAN MOTORS in 1984.....

Chrysler bought AMC and interited the XJ in 1988.
Yeah, mine was manufactured by chrysler, but it's not a Chrysler design. Which makes me happy. Its an AMC as far as I'm concerned.
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Unread 11-28-2010, 05:05 PM   #104
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got the passenger side floor tached in the same way, also the smaller panels are both tached in too.
getting ready to do the whole bottomside, and finish weld the top. I'm getting there, a little at a time.

All this is happening outside, in the northern part of western ny.
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Unread 11-28-2010, 05:49 PM   #105
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awesome that thing should be able to drive over mines and haul lots of fat chicks after your done.
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