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Unread 07-11-2010, 01:07 AM   #1
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Please help!!

So i removed my front doors today, just unbolted them and cut the wires. after i was done the thing wouldnt start. i jumped it and it started w/out my buddy even having to turn his truck on. i got in and when i turned on my lights the jeep died immediatetly. jumped it again with the lights on and drove it. it drove fine and after goin i could turn anything on/off w/out a problem. got home and shut it off, SAME PROBLEM. also when i was driving i flicked my high beams on and my stereo restarted real quick.

I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG PLEASE HELP

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Unread 07-11-2010, 01:54 AM   #2
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Unplug the door wires in the kick panels and see if anything changes. If all behaves well, congrats, enjoy. If the problems are still there start poking around your fuse box for burned out fuses.

Sounds like stuff is trying to ground though the door wires to me.
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Unread 07-11-2010, 02:02 AM   #3
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Unplug the door wires in the kick panels and see if anything changes. If all behaves well, congrats, enjoy. If the problems are still there start poking around your fuse box for burned out fuses.

Sounds like stuff is trying to ground though the door wires to me.
god i hope your right. im out unplugging that stuff right now. i may have burnd out a fuse since i started cutting the wires w/the battery still plugged in(im a dumba** sometimes) would you happen to know which fuse i would have burnt out doin that? or is it one a those things you cant know without looking?
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Doorless
[COLOR="DimGray"]Homebrew discos[/COLOR][/FONT]

[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 02:16 AM   #4
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My first question is: How did you cut the wires? If you just did cut them straight off and left them there I think thatīs the problem. Split the cables and isolate everyone of them. Probably the cables to the door locks are messing with the alarm causing this problems.

BTW: Electricity is a great invention, BUT it really can mess things up.
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Unread 07-11-2010, 02:24 AM   #5
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ya i just cut them straight and left them there. i just took the kick panels off and disconnected all the wires from the door and i didnt find a blown fuse so wel see. im gonna go jump it with my truck, hopefully that did it. is there a chance i blew something going to or from the alternator so its not charging right?
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D30 front D35 Rear
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]33x12.5 Mudders sitting on 15" M/T Beadlocks[/COLOR]
Doorless
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[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 02:31 AM   #6
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I donīt think that you have made any damages to the charging system, unless you had the engine running while you did cut the cables!!!
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Unread 07-11-2010, 02:39 AM   #7
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My money is with jeeplasse on the alarm messing with things.

Guessing the power locks and power windows would be the fuses that would get blown. Maybe ecu, since it's connected to the locks also.
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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:01 AM   #8
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alright so there was a ground problem because i disconnected everything and jumped it. got it started and turned the lights on and it didnt die. the volt meter went back up to 14 and all was good. shut it off, tried to start it again, nothing not a thing not even a click from the starter.. any ideas??
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D30 front D35 Rear
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]33x12.5 Mudders sitting on 15" M/T Beadlocks[/COLOR]
Doorless
[COLOR="DimGray"]Homebrew discos[/COLOR][/FONT]

[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:17 AM   #9
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oh and is the ecu fuse one of those silver fuses that you cant tell if its blown? and wouldnt it run different or not at all if that fuse was blown? im lost here
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"]33x12.5 Mudders sitting on 15" M/T Beadlocks[/COLOR]
Doorless
[COLOR="DimGray"]Homebrew discos[/COLOR][/FONT]

[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:30 AM   #10
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Have you tried to start it with the shifter in neutral instead of parking? Has there been any similar problems before? It could be the NSS. Try to jump the starter.
It could be the immobilizer in the alarm, but if, why did it work the first time?
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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:43 AM   #11
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Have you tried to start it with the shifter in neutral instead of parking? Has there been any similar problems before? It could be the NSS. Try to jump the starter.
It could be the immobilizer in the alarm, but if, why did it work the first time?
no i havnt. if i turn the key on my radio doesnt even light up. iv only owned it for about a month but no i have had no problems like this at all until i took the doors off. and i wasnt aware it had an alarm system. whats NSS?
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Doorless
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[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:58 AM   #12
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could the 5amp INST LPS fuse have anything to do with it?
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[FONT="Arial Black"]1990 XJ[/FONT]
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Red"]3" Rancho 5000 lift[/COLOR]
D30 front D35 Rear
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]33x12.5 Mudders sitting on 15" M/T Beadlocks[/COLOR]
Doorless
[COLOR="DimGray"]Homebrew discos[/COLOR][/FONT]

[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 03:59 AM   #13
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NSS is the neutral safety switch located on the automatic gearbox, preventing you to start the engine in drive or reverse. You can try to take the negative cable off from the battery and leave it off for 5 min. or so. This will restart the ECU. I canītell you if there is a fuse for the ECU, and I havenīt got my repair manuals here right now.
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Unread 07-11-2010, 04:40 AM   #14
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thanks so much for you help. shes runnin!! i disconnected the battery, cleaned it all up, put it on and tightened a little then turn it in a circle to get the metal all chewed up and kept don that till i couldnt turn it and she ran.
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[FONT="Arial Black"]1990 XJ[/FONT]
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D30 front D35 Rear
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]33x12.5 Mudders sitting on 15" M/T Beadlocks[/COLOR]
Doorless
[COLOR="DimGray"]Homebrew discos[/COLOR][/FONT]

[QUOTE=nwiTJdave;11190438]Just remember, dress blues make girs drop their clothes much faster than Army puke greens :cheers2::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoobly_Goob;10060314]Nothing says "We are a welcoming and kind offroad enthusiast community" like laughing at fat chicks.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 07-11-2010, 04:56 AM   #15
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That`s great! Congratulations!
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