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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:12 PM   #1
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overheating only when a/c is on

i have a 98 xj with the 4.0 temp stays just a little above the 210 mark but when i turn on the a/c after a few miles it goes to 260 ill pull over let it set for the most 5 min. with the key on and it will drop back down like the thermostat opens if i drive with no ac its fine

replaced the thermostat and radiator cap fans are running eater pump should be fine it only does it with a/c on please help!!!

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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:17 PM   #2
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Is your e-fan working?? The auxillary fan should come on at about 218-220F. If it's not working the A/C puts a load on the engine that the mechanical fan can't handle.
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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:19 PM   #3
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yes the e fan is running
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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:21 PM   #4
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after hot the temp drops like the thermostat opens up but I just replaced it today
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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:40 PM   #5
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Overheating cooling system

Overheating can be caused by anything that decreases the cooling system’s ability to absorb, transport, and dissipate heat, such as a low coolant level, loss of coolant (through internal or external leaks), poor heat conductivity inside the engine because of accumulated mineral deposits in the water jackets or radiator, a defective thermostat that doesn’t open, poor airflow through the radiator, a slipping fan clutch, an inoperative electric cooling fan, a collapsed lower radiator hose, an eroded or loose water pump impeller or even a defective radiator cap.

The cooling system is a group of related parts that depend on proper function from each of its component parts to keep the engine cool. Service the cooling system and replace any under-performing or suspected weak parts. Any component part of the cooling system that is not fully doing its job will stress the others and your cooling system will overheat. The most important maintenance item is to flush and refill the coolant periodically. Coolant should be replaced every 36,000 miles or every three years. Anti-freeze has a number of additives that are designed to prevent corrosion in the cooling system, but they have a limited life span. The corrosion causes scale that eventually builds up and begins to clog the thin flat tubes in the radiator and heater core, causing the engine to eventually overheat.


-Use a flushing/cleaning solution and then drain and fill the radiator with a fresh 50/50 coolant and water mix. With a neglected cooling system you may have to flush several times.
-Inspect the radiator for mud/bugs/grass clogging the outside and mineral deposits clogging the inside. Clean or replace as needed.
-Replace the thermostat with a STANT or Robertshaw 195* thermostat. Cheap thermostats are cheap for a reason.
-Replace the radiator cap if your Jeep has one. An old worn out cap will allow boil overs and/or allow the coolant flash over into to steam. You will see the coolant temps suddenly jump from 210* to the Red Zone and back to 210* if your radiator cap is weak.
-Inspect/test or replace the mechanical fan clutch. A worn fan clutch will allow temperature creep at stoplights, in heavy traffic, and on the 4x4 trails. A fan clutch that “looks” OK is not the same as working OK.
-Inspect the electric cooling fan and the fan relay. Apply 12 volts and make sure the fan runs. Exchange the cooling fan relay with one of the others similar relays. Confirm that the e-fan starts when engine temps reach 215-218*. Repair or replace the fan or relay as needed.
-Inspect/test or replace the coolant temperature sensor that activates the e-fan.
-Replace the water pump. The pumping fins can deteriorate over time and the pump will not flow enough coolant to keep the temps under control.
-Inspect/replace the radiator hoses. Make sure the coiled wire is installed in the lower hose.

If you have covered all the points listed above and still have overheating issues, inspect the head for cracks and head gasket for leaks. Exhaust gasses entering the coolant can raise the temperature of the coolant or cause steam pockets in the coolant that will temporarily block the flow of coolant

Read more about cooling systems here –

www.offroaders.com/tech/engine-overheating.htm

www.familycar.com/classroom/coolingsystem.htm
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also it is boiling in the overflow
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Unread 06-29-2012, 08:15 PM   #7
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just went out to try to figure out the problem after a few min working in the dark i noticed my manifold was glowing red this problem is getting bigger
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Unread 06-30-2012, 12:09 AM   #8
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Not all new parts are good parts. Cheap parts are cheap for a reason.
I can't agree more. Went through 2 new thermostats to find a good one just not so long ago. Should I had known that, I wouldn't have changed the water pump and a bunch of other stuff in the process... Cheap parts may end up being outrageously expensive.
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just went out to try to figure out the problem after a few min working in the dark i noticed my manifold was glowing red this problem is getting bigger
Sounds like a plugged catalytic converter. I'd likely start there.
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Unread 06-30-2012, 12:35 PM   #10
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looks to have no cat..... this morning i took the thermostat back out put it back together with out one so i could drive it to get a replacement and it did not overheat so i guessing this was the problem.... maybe?
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Unread 06-30-2012, 04:29 PM   #11
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Like CJ7Tim states, could be bad new stock Tstat. If the Tstat is in the closed position, put in boiling water and see if it opens. If it doesn't, problem confirmed.
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