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Unread 06-14-2007, 11:46 PM   #31
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Great job Kyle


Btw., as a reminder, not all XJs need a SYE. If you have a PTO (power take off) behind your TC, it already eliminates the slip yoke.

Here's a bad picture of mine behind a 242:
(it's the "thing" on the upper left corner)


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Unread 06-15-2007, 12:45 AM   #32
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in all my years of "I could be doing something else but I'll waste time on the jeep forum" I've never seen that....

more information on this: "Power Take Off" you call it... is this another rare hidden stock option? (like the stock winch in the front bumper... that's a gem)
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Unread 06-15-2007, 06:07 AM   #33
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in all my years of "I could be doing something else but I'll waste time on the jeep forum" I've never seen that....

more information on this: "Power Take Off" you call it... is this another rare hidden stock option? (like the stock winch in the front bumper... that's a gem)
Stock winch in the front bumper! WHAA??? Iv'e never seen that ever!

And this PTO, more info please.
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Unread 06-15-2007, 07:51 AM   #34
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From a previous thread:

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It's power output - a little extra thingy attached to tc (it's the small shaft you see in the pic):


It was a mandatory thing on 4wheel drive vehicles in Finland back from something like 1970's until year 1993 if you wanted to buy the car tax- free. Good thing is, now that I have it I don't need to get myself a SYE- kit or do hack'n tap
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Unread 06-15-2007, 07:56 AM   #35
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I wish my Jeep came from Finland. That would save me about $600 bucks.
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Unread 06-15-2007, 09:08 AM   #36
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definatly wish my jeep came from finland
thats pretty interesting, i have definatly never seen that before.

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Unread 06-15-2007, 09:15 AM   #37
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Very nice write up Kyle. Has anyone used a front TJ shaft in the rear of an XJ, I'm asking because we have like 7 front TJ shafts at the dealership I work for and not one XJ shaft.

As for the factory installed winch I have seen two of them on 87/88 XJ's when I first started working for a Jeep dealer
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Unread 06-15-2007, 09:24 AM   #38
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I wish my Jeep came from Finland. That would save me about $600 bucks.

Yeah, but the shipping would kill ya....



Don't forget about the 10 min install!!!!!!


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Unread 06-15-2007, 11:39 AM   #39
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Rob, just measure them out and see. Chances are they'll be too short, though.
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Unread 06-15-2007, 12:42 PM   #40
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definatly wish my jeep came from finland
thats pretty interesting, i have definatly never seen that before.

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I could actually use it to operate a mechanical winch if I wanted - I'd need to find a suitable unit forit first. Dunno if ie. old Toyota mech. winches would work? I can't remember the max. torque handling capacity of the PTO, but it should be in the same region with the TC - meaning around 1500-1900 lbs/ft. Should be enough for a powerful and strong winch.

I know most of the XJs sold in Finland up to beginning of 1993 (when the tax-free law changed) were equipped with a PTO. IIRC, PTOs were factory installed. There are a lot of PTO equipped XJs in Sweden too, dunno about central Europe.

The bad things about 'em that I know of:
*they tend to be leaky - you gotta remove it, open it up, change the seals, clean all mating surfaces and use RTV. ..and it starts leaking a little later again. It's not usually that bad though, just a few drops a day.
* pretty strong units fromthe inside, but the mechanism to use 'em is prone to failing. PTO is cable controlled, and the actual procedure to engage and disengage it is pretty weird.
* it's slightly longer than a short- style HD SYE.
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Unread 06-15-2007, 07:56 PM   #41
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PTOs are common on older American military and farm vehicles. Search Jeep PTO winch and you will get several hits for older vehicles.

I think it was cost and ease of manufactureability that killed it here in the states.
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Unread 06-16-2007, 04:59 AM   #42
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This thread should be a sticky.
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Unread 06-16-2007, 10:10 PM   #43
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People usually don't read the stickies.

But I added it to the Tech Links for FAQ sticky.
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Unread 06-18-2007, 03:34 PM   #44
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People usually don't read the stickies.

But I added it to the Tech Links for FAQ sticky.
thank you eric.

and ya most people dont read the stickies which sucks, ususally its the first place that i look. but as a result of people not reading the stickies i have included links to all of my writeups in my sig

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Unread 07-17-2007, 09:41 PM   #45
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sorrta travled away from the yj posts
but this is the SYE thread so...

i have finsished installing the AA sye kit along with a cv ds on my np231 t case
the original gear selecton patteren was 2H 4H N 4L
now the shift pattern starts 4wd then 2h
any ideas on what i did wrong???
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