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Unread 03-22-2010, 10:22 PM   #181
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Ok, so Ive been looking around for a sye kit for my 97 and I'm confused a little bit on one part. While looking at some of the kits some say "for all np231 models" and others say "tj, yj" but theydon't say xj, also teraflex charges more for the xj sye than they do the tj one. I've tried to figure out why but to me they look exactly the same, I would assume since the xj and tj have the same T-case (np231 not 242) that the kits should be the same and so should the price. So my question is, if I buy a kit that says tj yj will it still work on my xj? I'm so confused about it and right now it's the only thing that's keeping me from buying one.
I installed a Teraflex kit about a week ago and all the directions refered to "YJ" even though I bought an XJ kit. My guess is they just have one set of directions and info on their web sites.

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Unread 03-23-2010, 12:40 AM   #182
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Don't quote me on this... but I believe that they TJ/YJ shaft (replacement shaft in the kit) is either shorter or longer than the XJ one? There was something different for sure... don't recall what. Others like CJ7-Tim will likely have that answer?

Still doesn't explain why some are universal?

See that's what I'm stuck on is why can some kits say that they are universal and others don't. Especially since the xj one is 308$ where the tj and yj one is 243$. thats 65$ difference that i cant tell why?

oh and sorry for quoting you ha ha
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Unread 03-23-2010, 12:45 AM   #183
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escapeartist, did you buy the xj one for 308 or 243?
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Unread 03-23-2010, 01:40 PM   #184
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escapeartist, did you buy the xj one for 308 or 243?
I don't remeber what I paid. I got it from jeepinoutfiters with a whole Y-link RE lift kit. As I recall the price was very fair.
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Unread 11-02-2010, 05:43 PM   #185
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wow this was extremely helpful. thanks for writing this.
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Unread 11-23-2010, 04:47 PM   #186
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It's been a good 1000 miles or so since I installed my SYE kit and its been great no problems in sight. Just wondering should I change the oil now or let it run till my next nornal change out?
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Unread 11-23-2010, 05:56 PM   #187
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Section 4 - All available SYEs and locations that you can purchase them

Rubicon Express SYEs
HD SYE Kit (NP231)
Rugged Ridge heavy-duty SYE kit - NP231, 52231 - JeepinOutfitters

Heavy-duty SYE/CV driveshaft combo (NP231)
Rugged Ridge SYE/CV driveshaft combo, NP231, 52231-1860 - JeepinOutfitters

1807 SYE KIT CV TJ/XJ 96+ *Hack N Tap* (NP231/ NP242)
Rubicon Express SYE KIT CV TJ/XJ 96+, RE1807 - JeepinOutfitters

1801 SYE KIT CV TJ/XJ Pre 96 *Hack N Tap* (NP231/ NP242)
Rubicon Express SYE KIT CV NP231/242 Pre-'96, RE1801 - JeepinOutfitters

SYE/CV driveshaft combo *Hack N Tap* TJ/XJ 96+
RE Hack-n-Tap SYE/CV driveshaft combo TJ/XJ 96+, RE1807-1898 - JeepinOutfitters


PORC SYEs
HD SYE Kit (NP231)
PORC

PORC

Hack N Tap Pre 96 (NP231/ NP242)
PORC

JB Conversions SYEs
HD SYE Kit (NP231)
JB Conversions, Inc.
okay so i really need to do a sye. i will def be doing a hack n tap deal. i see all the websites with what im looking for but what i am not seeing is the adapter. all im seeing is the piece that goes over the shaft and gets a bolt to the shaft. but what about the other piece that hooks to the drive shaft and the need piece on the output shaft? i hope this makes sense. thanks for any info
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Unread 11-23-2010, 07:13 PM   #188
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okay so i really need to do a sye. i will def be doing a hack n tap deal. i see all the websites with what im looking for but what i am not seeing is the adapter. all im seeing is the piece that goes over the shaft and gets a bolt to the shaft. but what about the other piece that hooks to the drive shaft and the need piece on the output shaft? i hope this makes sense. thanks for any info
If you are doing a flange-style hack and tap (like Rubicon Express) you will need to get Spicer flange # 211229x to connect the driveshaft to the flange. Drivelines, Yokes, Carrier Bearings and Spacers, Etc. 1310 CV Flanged Centering Yoke
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Unread 11-22-2011, 03:17 PM   #189
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So I read a good bit of this and Im thinking about goin with the IRO SYE since its a all inclusive kit and the JY around here are a rip off. They prolly wnat over a $100 for a use drive shaft. Is anyone running the IRO Kit? How is it?
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Unread 12-03-2011, 03:37 PM   #190
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I'm confused as to why the Hack n' Tap would be preferable to a normal SYE. Is it just because people don't want to open their transfer case or what?

My question is this: I found a front XJ shaft in the junkyard, so I'm all set with that. If I do the HNT I need the Spicer flange (48 bucks is best price I've seen) and the RE 1807 (99 bucks). So I'm looking at 150 for the HNT and I'd still need to purchase the necessary tools to tap.

OR I could buy the Advance Adapters SYE for 199 and just do it that way. If I decide to go the AA route, which Yoke Option do I choose when using an XJ driveshaft? The 1310 CV yoke? That seems like the smartest option to me. Opening up the transfer case really doesn't look that bad.
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Unread 12-03-2011, 04:09 PM   #191
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So I read a good bit of this and Im thinking about goin with the IRO SYE since its a all inclusive kit and the JY around here are a rip off. They prolly wnat over a $100 for a use drive shaft. Is anyone running the IRO Kit? How is it?
I installed the iro hack and tap last weekend. It went great, when I got sharp drill bits. It really isn't that difficult but if I were to do it over again I would have paid for them to include the drill bits and tap.

Edit: I see you are asking about they sye and not hack and tap... I have no idea about their full sye kit.
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Unread 12-03-2011, 04:33 PM   #192
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I installed the iro hack and tap last weekend. It went great, when I got sharp drill bits. It really isn't that difficult but if I were to do it over again I would have paid for them to include the drill bits and tap.

Edit: I see you are asking about they sye and not hack and tap... I have no idea about their full sye kit.
It looks like the IRO kit is the non-flange style, so it doesn't need the Spicer flange. Since I already have a driveshaft, I could just get the yoke kit plus the tools for 140 and that would be it.

..I think. Anyone know for sure?
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Unread 12-03-2011, 05:54 PM   #193
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I'm confused as to why the Hack n' Tap would be preferable to a normal SYE. Is it just because people don't want to open their transfer case or what?

My question is this: I found a front XJ shaft in the junkyard, so I'm all set with that. If I do the HNT I need the Spicer flange (48 bucks is best price I've seen) and the RE 1807 (99 bucks). So I'm looking at 150 for the HNT and I'd still need to purchase the necessary tools to tap.

OR I could buy the Advance Adapters SYE for 199 and just do it that way. If I decide to go the AA route, which Yoke Option do I choose when using an XJ driveshaft? The 1310 CV yoke? That seems like the smartest option to me. Opening up the transfer case really doesn't look that bad.
I believe that the hack and tap sets the mounting point out further allowing you to run a front shaft in the rear. Im not positive but that what i got outa what I read. So if you did real SYE you also need to buy a new axle.

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I installed the iro hack and tap last weekend. It went great, when I got sharp drill bits. It really isn't that difficult but if I were to do it over again I would have paid for them to include the drill bits and tap.

Edit: I see you are asking about they sye and not hack and tap... I have no idea about their full sye kit.
Thanks I was looking at the hack n tap, since IRO has it with the axle for a good price.
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Unread 12-03-2011, 10:41 PM   #194
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Well I'm leaning more toward the IRO hack and tap at this point. Just wondering about the flange.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 12:08 AM   #195
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So i have a 250 dollar budget. I would prefer to use the stock XJ front driveshaft so I only need to have one spare. I dont mind if its an SYE or HnT.

I saw interest in the PORC SYE kit but not sure if i can use the stock XJ front driveshaft with that.

also, if i do a HnT, what is the weak point? would the U-joints break before the output shaft breaks?
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