New Rig Please Answer Questions Thanx !!!!!

CruzNlife1 · 07-22-2002, 10:50 PM

OKAY GUYS, I JUST BOUGHT A 1989 JEEP CHEROKEE LIMITED 2DR AUTO

I WAS WONDERING THE FULL DETAILS OF THE 4 WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM, IS THIS A PART TIME AS WELL AS A FULL TIME SYSTEM ?!?!?!? HOW WELL DOES IT WORK, IS MINE REALLY CHAIN DRIVEN ??!?!?!??!

ALSO HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SHIFT INTO 4WD.... I HAVENT TRIED CAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW

IS IT SHIFT ON THE FLY ?!?!?

OR DO I DO IT FROM NEAUTRAL ?!??!?!!? THANKS ALOT

ALSO ANY LOW PRICE OR EVEN FREE POWER UPS, FOR IT THANKS ALOT....

HERES SOME PICTURES OF IT, YOU CAN SEE MY G/F IN ONE SHE DIDNT KNOW I WAS TAKING THE PICTURE, SHES LIKE CLUELESS HAHAH LOL!!!!

http:\\www.geocities.com\cruznlife1\CHEROKEE.html

cladinshadow · 07-22-2002, 11:33 PM

Holy crap, they made the limited in 2-door? Rock on. I'd ditch the bullet-hole sticker on the back, though. And try to ditch the all caps.

Your four-wheel drive is not shift on the fly, gotta do it from neutral or low speed in drive. Your transfer case is most likely an aluminum, chain driven 'part-time' case, the NP231, being New Process. No jeep is really part-time, the driveshaft will spin meaning it's not ever fullly out of four-wheel drive.

Power-ups are the roughly the same as any other car. Gotta spend $$, the amount varies.

nwtxj · 07-23-2002, 08:41 AM

While not recomended at speeds over a crawl, shifting 'on the fly' is very posible at speeds of 60mph & up. I shift mine in & out at all speeds with no problems(both my sel-trc & the com-trc). Take some time to get used to it though. Unless you spend your time on gravel & ice hiways like I do there's not much need to be shifting in/out of 4x4 at high speeds.
Do Not Use 4x4 on dry roads, my com-trc will even buck once in a while on some good sections of ice-roads.
Take some time to learn your ride & you'll be ok.
R.

cladinshadow · 07-23-2002, 09:08 AM

From what I've heard, shifting in and out at high speeds tears the 231 apart. Course, that's just what I've heard. I have yet to drop the sucker in my jeep. But, you Canadians are a very different breed. ;c) At least none of us are newfies, eh?

TJs96XJ · 07-23-2002, 01:09 PM

My 89 has a 242j TC and you can shift on the up to 45 mph anyway that's what the book says.. hope this helps. Need to know what kind of TC you have, look in the back of the TC it will tell you. If your shifter says 4x4 part time and 4x4 full the you have a 242j if not then you most likely have the 231 and yes they are both chain driven..

CruzNlife1 · 07-23-2002, 02:18 PM

yeah someone was saying that the 2 dr limiteds are rare, also there is a small leak behind the transfer case, anything to worry about it looks like its been there for awhile....

also sorry bout the all caps post

and yes the 4 wd shifter has like 6 selections i have posted a picture of it on the other page with the other pictures, take a look for me thanks.....

http:\\www.geocities.com\cruznlife1\CHEROKEE.html

TJs96XJ · 07-23-2002, 06:44 PM

Can't get in, it says Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable! But from what your saying you have the NP 242 j TC. This has full-time and part-time 4x4.

CruzNlife1 · 07-23-2002, 09:02 PM

but any idea on my leak though ???? its like a dribble coming out of the transfer case to the rear drive shaft is it dificult to change seals etc.... ???? i am going to do that, and change the tranny fluid and put some leak stop in there, the tranny was a little wet but i dont think its tranny fluid but i wanna be safe, the motor is the culpret it needs a valve cover gasket, this makes it sound like a piece of crap saying all this but i think its the valve cover gasket leaking and thats whats getting oil everywhere else

TJs96XJ · 07-23-2002, 10:17 PM

FIRST OF ALL NEVER NEVER NEVER USE STOP LEAK FOR THE FIX!!!!
Need to take and degrease under the jeep from the front to the rear and the engine compartment as well, in-order to see where all the leaks are from. Take notice for blow-by where it could be a trans leak just blowing back to the TC and driveshaft just a thought. Repairing TC's isn't all that hard. NP 231 and NP 242's are much easier than the order models

CruzNlife1 · 07-24-2002, 06:08 PM

K guys sorry bout not having that picture ready, i have it right here

http:\\www.geocities.com\cruznlife1\4wd.html

whIch TC do i have ????

i understand the blowby and i'm like 90% sure its the motor leaking not the tranny, i just put the new u-joints on today, WOW WHAT A FABULOUS DIFFERENCE, the old ones were torn up no needles left and two bowls were cracked, well its noticeably smoother, and that nasty squeak is gone, now like i said i understand the blowby but i am 100% sure the TC has a small leak in it too, there a very clearly seen dribble coming out where the seal is.... thank you all so much for your help, and god bless

*EDIT* the part time light stays on regardless of where the shifter is when in 4wd when you go to 2wd it turns off.... also like i said i'm not exactly expierienced when it comes to this 4 wheel drive system at a standing stop in neutral i have to yank on that handle like a bear to pull up to different selections, i dont know if i can shift while moving or what, I JUST DONT WANNA BREAK ANYTHING !!!! someone with a written manual or something please help thanks alot

nwtxj · 07-24-2002, 06:53 PM

Go ahead & pull it up while your moving(slowly first). Just go slow & easy & don't jam it or pull like a bear.

You shouldn't have too. You may feel the gears lightly touching & then it should slide right in.
Both of mine were a bit tricky at first due to lack of use by previous owners. Took a little coaxing at first to teach my xj's how they should perform

R.

CruzNlife1 · 07-24-2002, 07:11 PM

ha i dont know the original owner so i dont know if they used it or not, but my boss is so ignorant when it comes to cars i swear to god she didnt even know it was 4 wheel drive, thats why i say i really don't think she knew what she had.... thats why i got it so cheap

CruzNlife1 · 07-24-2002, 07:11 PM

so i know that the 4 wheel drive was rarely ever used

TJs96XJ · 07-24-2002, 08:16 PM

CruzNlife1 it's an NP 242 j TC. You need to get under the jeep and look at the back of the tc and you will find two nuts on the backside unscrew the top one and stick your finger in to see if there's any fluid if not use trans fluid. If the leak is in the back of the tc/rear driveshaft then you will be able to make repairs without dropping the tc. I will try to get my scanner working tonight and get you the info.

CruzNlife1 · 07-24-2002, 10:27 PM

I appreciate it so much thank you soo much, i still havent gotten around to getting a service manual for it, i am having a hard time finding it, i've been to autozone, pep boys, napa, etc.... i am going to have to order it online.... but really thanks alot

07-22-2002, 11:33 PM	#2
cladinshadow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamazoo, MI and L.A., California Posts: 316 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Holy crap, they made the limited in 2-door? Rock on. I'd ditch the bullet-hole sticker on the back, though. And try to ditch the all caps. Your four-wheel drive is not shift on the fly, gotta do it from neutral or low speed in drive. Your transfer case is most likely an aluminum, chain driven 'part-time' case, the NP231, being New Process. No jeep is really part-time, the driveshaft will spin meaning it's not ever fullly out of four-wheel drive. Power-ups are the roughly the same as any other car. Gotta spend $$, the amount varies. __________________ Darren 96 XJ "Oh, thank god. It's some sort of rescue toaster."

07-23-2002, 08:41 AM	#3
nwtxj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northwest Territories, Canada Posts: 50 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	While not recomended at speeds over a crawl, shifting 'on the fly' is very posible at speeds of 60mph & up. I shift mine in & out at all speeds with no problems(both my sel-trc & the com-trc). Take some time to get used to it though. Unless you spend your time on gravel & ice hiways like I do there's not much need to be shifting in/out of 4x4 at high speeds. Do Not Use 4x4 on dry roads, my com-trc will even buck once in a while on some good sections of ice-roads. Take some time to learn your ride & you'll be ok. R. __________________ I live in the land of ice & snow, where my XJ's run in 40 below!

07-23-2002, 09:08 AM	#4
cladinshadow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kalamazoo, MI and L.A., California Posts: 316 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	From what I've heard, shifting in and out at high speeds tears the 231 apart. Course, that's just what I've heard. I have yet to drop the sucker in my jeep. But, you Canadians are a very different breed. ;c) At least none of us are newfies, eh? __________________ Darren 96 XJ "Oh, thank god. It's some sort of rescue toaster."

07-23-2002, 01:09 PM	#5
TJs96XJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 97 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	My 89 has a 242j TC and you can shift on the up to 45 mph anyway that's what the book says.. hope this helps. Need to know what kind of TC you have, look in the back of the TC it will tell you. If your shifter says 4x4 part time and 4x4 full the you have a 242j if not then you most likely have the 231 and yes they are both chain driven.. __________________ "80" CJ7 Just sitting right now my son will be old enough soon to help with his jeep "87" Cherokee "89" Cherokee Mud-dog "96" Cherokee Country 3.5 RE Lift IT REALLY IS A JEEP THING!!!!!!! $3,100 wish list down from $4,600 God made earth in 6 days and went WHEELINNG on the 7th

07-23-2002, 02:18 PM	#6
CruzNlife1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palm Beach Florida Posts: 114 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	yeah someone was saying that the 2 dr limiteds are rare, also there is a small leak behind the transfer case, anything to worry about it looks like its been there for awhile.... also sorry bout the all caps post and yes the 4 wd shifter has like 6 selections i have posted a picture of it on the other page with the other pictures, take a look for me thanks..... http:\\www.geocities.com\cruznlife1\CHEROKEE.html __________________ 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ LIMITED....2door.... Auto, NP242 4x4... 1996 Ranger Supercab.... 1991 Mustang LX.... VERY SOON TO BE A BRAND NEW TJ OWNER, TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW !!

07-23-2002, 06:44 PM	#7
TJs96XJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 97 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Can't get in, it says Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable! But from what your saying you have the NP 242 j TC. This has full-time and part-time 4x4. __________________ "80" CJ7 Just sitting right now my son will be old enough soon to help with his jeep "87" Cherokee "89" Cherokee Mud-dog "96" Cherokee Country 3.5 RE Lift IT REALLY IS A JEEP THING!!!!!!! $3,100 wish list down from $4,600 God made earth in 6 days and went WHEELINNG on the 7th

07-23-2002, 09:02 PM	#8
CruzNlife1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palm Beach Florida Posts: 114 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	but any idea on my leak though ???? its like a dribble coming out of the transfer case to the rear drive shaft is it dificult to change seals etc.... ???? i am going to do that, and change the tranny fluid and put some leak stop in there, the tranny was a little wet but i dont think its tranny fluid but i wanna be safe, the motor is the culpret it needs a valve cover gasket, this makes it sound like a piece of crap saying all this but i think its the valve cover gasket leaking and thats whats getting oil everywhere else __________________ 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ LIMITED....2door.... Auto, NP242 4x4... 1996 Ranger Supercab.... 1991 Mustang LX.... VERY SOON TO BE A BRAND NEW TJ OWNER, TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW !!

07-23-2002, 10:17 PM	#9
TJs96XJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 97 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	FIRST OF ALL NEVER NEVER NEVER USE STOP LEAK FOR THE FIX!!!! Need to take and degrease under the jeep from the front to the rear and the engine compartment as well, in-order to see where all the leaks are from. Take notice for blow-by where it could be a trans leak just blowing back to the TC and driveshaft just a thought. Repairing TC's isn't all that hard. NP 231 and NP 242's are much easier than the order models __________________ "80" CJ7 Just sitting right now my son will be old enough soon to help with his jeep "87" Cherokee "89" Cherokee Mud-dog "96" Cherokee Country 3.5 RE Lift IT REALLY IS A JEEP THING!!!!!!! $3,100 wish list down from $4,600 God made earth in 6 days and went WHEELINNG on the 7th

07-24-2002, 06:08 PM	#10
CruzNlife1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palm Beach Florida Posts: 114 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	K guys sorry bout not having that picture ready, i have it right here http:\\www.geocities.com\cruznlife1\4wd.html whIch TC do i have ???? i understand the blowby and i'm like 90% sure its the motor leaking not the tranny, i just put the new u-joints on today, WOW WHAT A FABULOUS DIFFERENCE, the old ones were torn up no needles left and two bowls were cracked, well its noticeably smoother, and that nasty squeak is gone, now like i said i understand the blowby but i am 100% sure the TC has a small leak in it too, there a very clearly seen dribble coming out where the seal is.... thank you all so much for your help, and god bless EDIT the part time light stays on regardless of where the shifter is when in 4wd when you go to 2wd it turns off.... also like i said i'm not exactly expierienced when it comes to this 4 wheel drive system at a standing stop in neutral i have to yank on that handle like a bear to pull up to different selections, i dont know if i can shift while moving or what, I JUST DONT WANNA BREAK ANYTHING !!!! someone with a written manual or something please help thanks alot __________________ 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ LIMITED....2door.... Auto, NP242 4x4... 1996 Ranger Supercab.... 1991 Mustang LX.... VERY SOON TO BE A BRAND NEW TJ OWNER, TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW !! Last edited by CruzNlife1; 07-24-2002 at 06:11 PM..

07-24-2002, 06:53 PM	#11
nwtxj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northwest Territories, Canada Posts: 50 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Go ahead & pull it up while your moving(slowly first). Just go slow & easy & don't jam it or pull like a bear. You shouldn't have too. You may feel the gears lightly touching & then it should slide right in. Both of mine were a bit tricky at first due to lack of use by previous owners. Took a little coaxing at first to teach my xj's how they should perform R. __________________ I live in the land of ice & snow, where my XJ's run in 40 below! Last edited by nwtxj; 07-24-2002 at 06:56 PM..

07-24-2002, 07:11 PM	#12
CruzNlife1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palm Beach Florida Posts: 114 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	ha i dont know the original owner so i dont know if they used it or not, but my boss is so ignorant when it comes to cars i swear to god she didnt even know it was 4 wheel drive, thats why i say i really don't think she knew what she had.... thats why i got it so cheap __________________ 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ LIMITED....2door.... Auto, NP242 4x4... 1996 Ranger Supercab.... 1991 Mustang LX.... VERY SOON TO BE A BRAND NEW TJ OWNER, TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW !!

07-24-2002, 08:16 PM	#14
TJs96XJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 97 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	CruzNlife1 it's an NP 242 j TC. You need to get under the jeep and look at the back of the tc and you will find two nuts on the backside unscrew the top one and stick your finger in to see if there's any fluid if not use trans fluid. If the leak is in the back of the tc/rear driveshaft then you will be able to make repairs without dropping the tc. I will try to get my scanner working tonight and get you the info. __________________ "80" CJ7 Just sitting right now my son will be old enough soon to help with his jeep "87" Cherokee "89" Cherokee Mud-dog "96" Cherokee Country 3.5 RE Lift IT REALLY IS A JEEP THING!!!!!!! $3,100 wish list down from $4,600 God made earth in 6 days and went WHEELINNG on the 7th

07-24-2002, 10:27 PM	#15
CruzNlife1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Palm Beach Florida Posts: 114 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I appreciate it so much thank you soo much, i still havent gotten around to getting a service manual for it, i am having a hard time finding it, i've been to autozone, pep boys, napa, etc.... i am going to have to order it online.... but really thanks alot __________________ 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ LIMITED....2door.... Auto, NP242 4x4... 1996 Ranger Supercab.... 1991 Mustang LX.... VERY SOON TO BE A BRAND NEW TJ OWNER, TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW !!