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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:00 PM   #1
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me, my jeep, and a question.

Hello fello jeepers! My name is Brantt and i am offically a jeeper now. haha

1998 cherokee sport 4.0L/AW4/231/8.25 and stuff.
Just got it this afternoon, and i'm in love with this thing! got my first compliment within 30 min. when i took it to the carwash. Got my first jeep wave from a sick lifted cherokee today also! (anybody on here live in sanford, NC? if so, let me know!)

did i say that i'm super excited? haha

didnt have time to take pics today, but here are two from the CL ad:





and the tech:

unless there is another switch very well hidden, i think all four of the hella 500's are wired to one switch. i've traced some wires (not done yet) ans so far have only found a spot for one inline fuse. and every time i flip the switch on, it blows a 15a fuse. so if all four light are on the one circiut, do i need a bigger fuse? of is there a hidden problem somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:11 PM   #2
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Looks very nice. How much did you get it for? Fill out your profile info with the jeep specs if you can.

Anyway, I would think a 15a fuse would be sufficient. Is the inline fuse the one that is blowing? Look for a short somewhere. If when you flip the switches the lights don't turn on at all, not for an instant, than you probably have a short somewhere between that fuse and the lights. If they come on for a sec, then it blows, it is more likely the lights draw too much current.

I wish my jeep looked like that.

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55w bulbs on hella 500's are 4 amps. So four would be 16a, and therefore you are overdrawing them. Set the top ones on another switch/circuit. That way you can drive on road with the bumper ones as highs if you want (follow laws for highbeams when using them). I think roof lights aren't legal on road.
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perfect depends on how far away you are when you look at it:D
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:13 PM   #3
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Looks good and they could be since your blowing a fuse and unless the wiring is very sufficient i would never run the 4 light on once circuit.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:36 PM   #4
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Kettles: they dont come on at all. instantly fried. So i'll look for a short and possibly try a fuse at or higher than 16 amps.

and would it be possible for the four lights to be on two different circiuts, but one switch controlling both circiuts?
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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
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Pull the switch and see how many wires go to it and check for grounds.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:54 PM   #6
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will-do tomorrow.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 10:54 PM   #7
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Kettles: they dont come on at all. instantly fried. So i'll look for a short and possibly try a fuse at or higher than 16 amps.

and would it be possible for the four lights to be on two different circiuts, but one switch controlling both circiuts?
Yes it is possible. Before trying a bigger fuse, I would disconnect 2 of the lights at the lights, and if it still blows, it is a short. If not, then you need multiple circuits. I wouldn't recommend a 20amp fuse on a circuit designed for 15 amps, the wires could get too hot. If I were you I would want to be able to independantly operate them anyway.
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:02 PM   #8
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How much was it?
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:11 PM   #9
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NICE RIG!..BUT, rear fenders look un-finished w/out being snipped and folded...other then that, your rig looks ready for biznas!
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:25 PM   #10
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How much was it?

My dad won't tell me exactly, but it was somewhere between $4,800 and $5,100. paid a little over Private Party bluebook for our area, but my dfad said it was worth it to him, so.

This was a 16th b-day/straight A's since 3rd grade present
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:27 PM   #11
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NICE RIG!..BUT, rear fenders look un-finished w/out being snipped and folded...other then that, your rig looks ready for biznas!

Thanks dude! and yeah, i agree, but it'll be a while before i can get permission to cut it up! haha. atleast the front is already trimed though.

I'm gonna wait till monday to ask if i can take the doors off. haha
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:34 PM   #12
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You have a nice dad.
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It's a 4.0 ... as long as there's something in the crank case that isn't coolant I'm sure it will still run forever.
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I think you're going to find it best to start over wiring the lights.

HD relay for each pair at least, separate switches for each pair. I'd also run the switches off the 15 amp (the switch current is low, and run 10 gauge or bigger (with an appropriate fuse at the battery) from the battery, to the relay, then to the light. You'll get far better light oputput with proper relay and heavy gauge wiring as well as have a much safer setup.
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Unread 06-19-2009, 11:49 PM   #14
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You have a nice dad.
I really do. I love both my parents very much, and I know i am very lucky.
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Unread 06-20-2009, 12:20 PM   #15
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I think roof lights aren't legal on road.
Their not illegal but check the state and local laws. Even if it's legal in your area you might want to get a set of covers for them. I know in PA and I believe it's the same in NY. You can have them but they MUST be covered when driving on the road. It doesn't matter if they don't work, the police will ticket you.
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