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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:00 AM   #1
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Looking to Lift my 2000 XJ

I'm looking to lift my 2000 xj, right now I'm riding stock. I have some 7' heavy duty leaf springs to put on, but don't know what else I need to complete the lift. Also I'm wondering what the arch is on stock leaf springs and what benefit there is in adding a t-case drop kit.

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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #2
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7'? 7" lift? Or are you measuring the arch's apex?

7" is fairly extreme for a lift. A T case drop won't help you at all. You will need a slip yoke eliminator.
I did a 3" lift and had pretty bad driveline vibes. A Tcase drop didn't help at all

At 7" you will need a good double shear trackbar with mount, 7"coils, expensive shocks, new brakehoses, long arm suspension in front longer swaybar endlinks and probably a few things I can't think of the smarter guys will chime in on.

Look in the FAQ's at the different lifts. Search Bastard Pack
Also at the bottom of this post there will be suggested searches/threads

Look at my posts under my name on the left I JUST wrote something about my bastardpack 3" lift
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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:34 AM   #3
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At 7" you will need a good double shear trackbar with mount, 7"coils, expensive shocks, new brakehoses, long arm suspension in front longer swaybar endlinks and probably a few things I can't think of the smarter guys will chime in on.
bigger tired (probably at least 35's), re-gear, stronger steering, longer drive shaft in rear, possibly front as well.
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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:48 AM   #4
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How much over stock do you plan on going?
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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:48 AM   #5
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Ha, my bad, 7" is the arch apex, should I return them for something shallower? I only want about a 2 inch lift, and at the time of purchase, I didn't know anything about it and was only trying to beef my suspension to keep it form bottoming out with my gear in it, so I just figured bigger leaf springs would just give it more spring and deter bottoming. So what is the easiest way to get a 2" lift?
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Unread 12-29-2010, 11:50 AM   #6
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Honestly, I don't know much about suspension work. What is the arch apex on stock leaf springs?
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Honestly, I don't know much about suspension work. What is the arch apex on stock leaf springs?
If I had to guess, and i am 7"
You also have to factor in the steel quality etc.

Did you buy some mystery leafs?
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If I had to guess, and i am 7"
You also have to factor in the steel quality etc.

Did you buy some mystery leafs?
They're Crown leaf springs, ordered from Morris 4x4.
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The HD leafs will give a small amount of lift. I got 2" over stock height from them, but results seem to vary between 1" and 2" of lift. You can add them with nothing else and be fine, or you can add them, see how much lift you get and buy a set of coil spacers for the front to match it up. At 2" of lift you can use the stock shocks but they will limit suspension travel offroad. You won't need to change anything else until you go 3" or above.
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Where did you get the springs? Any part #'s on them? Staying at 2 in is a good idea as you will avoid driveline issues. You can go cheep or OME makes a good kit. There is a ton of info here on lifting problems, search and read.
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Unread 12-29-2010, 12:22 PM   #11
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He stated they were the HD crown leafs purchased at morris 4x4. Same thing as the HD leafs from quadratec.
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You can add them with nothing else and be fine, or you can add them, see how much lift you get and buy a set of coil spacers for the front to match it up. At 2" of lift you can use the stock shocks but they will limit suspension travel offroad. You won't need to change anything else until you go 3" or above.
It looks like stock is about a 5" arch, so sevens should provide the lift I want. Would replacing the shocks as well avoid the limited off-road suspension travel?
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Yes, going with longer shocks will keep them alive and allow maximum flex from your suspension. Running stock shocks on 2" of lift won't hurt anything on the road, but if you disconnect the swaybar offroad they will get flexed out too much and it will blow them out.
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Unread 12-30-2010, 10:43 AM   #14
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It looks like stock is about a 5" arch, so sevens should provide the lift I want. Would replacing the shocks as well avoid the limited off-road suspension travel?
The amount of arch on an uncompressed leaf spring really means nothing. The amount of lift it will provide once it is under the weight of the jeep would depend on how many leafs, individual leaf thickness, quality of steel, how the metal was tempered, etc etc. Most leaf packs are sold by how much lift they will provide. Call the place you bought them from and ask. Then realize that is a ballpark figure depending on how much your current suspension is sagging and how much weight you carry etc.
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