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post #1 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
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Least expensive scan tool option for ABS brake Bleed?

Hello, Now that I know that I should use a scan tool in the brake bleeding process of an ABS equipped XJ, what would be the least expensive scan tool option that'll get-R-done?
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post #2 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:14 PM
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i don't have ABS, so i've never had to do it, but auto zone rents out their scanners for free. i would imagine that would do the job.

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post #3 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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Will it get-R-done? Does the break bleed need more than just something that reads codes? I'm unfamiliar with scan tools and what i've read about this(I need to read up more)so far is that what you find at auto parts stores are just basic code readers.

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post #4 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:31 PM
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i think the only reason you would need to use the scanner would be to cycle the pumps if you got air in the ABS module. why do you need to bleed the brakes? if you bleed it out of the bleeder valves and don't let any air into the system upstream, you should be fine. just make sure no air enters thougth the master cylinder. i'm not sure if the tool that auto zone rents out is capable of cycling the abs pumps. you could call them and ask them.

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post #5 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you, I'll find out.

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The bleed is necessary after rear axle assembly change, also replaced front brake calipers.

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post #7 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 03:43 PM
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ok, i'm trying to follow this since you now have several threads going on the same basic thing. the consesus seems to be that an OBDII scan tool won't cut it.

seems the best advice would be to take it to the dealer and have them bleed the brakes. they will certaily have access to the scan tool that is required. it's not worth chancing it and having air trapped in the system somewhere.

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post #8 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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Yea the multiple thread thing. I tried to avoid it, and will by only continuing to respond to this one. I may have to go to a shop.

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post #9 of 15 Old 02-23-2009, 11:35 PM
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You need the DRB tool to do the brakes. It is a dealer only tool, and from what I understand you can ruin your ABS setup if you don't use it so have the dealer do the job. Phil
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I have the exact same problem..been trying to bleed my cherokee for two weeks....This is a planned rip off by chrysler..they seem to be the only place that has this $10, 000. dollar machine...I did find used ones on ebay for $5k...what a crock...just to bleed brakes...bottom line is that chrysler designed this into the cars so we cant bleed them...forcing us into their shop so they can charge big bucks (plus a tow bill) I REFUSE to get ripped...some how I will bypass my ABS with brake hoses or adapters so I can bleed it...Fed up in Florida
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post #11 of 15 Old 01-11-2011, 03:41 AM
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Don't blame Chrysler for your lack of research. When servicing the 1997-2001 ABS brakes, or swapping axles, you depress the brake pedal and then hold it depressed with a block of wood. Depressing and blocking the brake pedal shuts all the ABS valves and no air enters the ABS system while you have the brake lines open. After your brake service or axle swap you remove the block of wood and bleed the brakes normally.


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i haven't had the problem your having. or don't understand whats going on. i did rear brake lines and one front on both my 96 and 98 when i did the lifts. i let them gravity bleed first then bled them with no problem? am i missing something?
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i haven't had the problem your having. or don't understand whats going on. i did rear brake lines and one front on both my 96 and 98 when i did the lifts. i let them gravity bleed first then bled them with no problem? am i missing something?
this is what I did too

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Find a dirt road or some snow and fire up the ABS a few times.
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post #15 of 15 Old 01-11-2011, 01:15 PM
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If you get air into the 1997-2001 ABS system the only way to bleed the ABS pump is with a DRB-III scan tool the dealership has. Allowing air into the ABS pump can destroy the pump and ABS system repairs are extremely expensive.

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