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Unread 01-23-2011, 11:49 AM   #1
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Ignition Switch Problem, BIG!!

I have a big problem with my ignition switch. Every time I go to start my 1996 Jeep Cherokee 4 door 4.0L the key goes way too far over and won't start the vehicle, so I had to put a remote start in to start it. I just bought a new ignition switch replaced it and it is still doing the same thing. The radio turns on, the fuel pump kicks in and all the lights on the dash light up but it will not start the vehicle.

What could the problem be??? I am stumped!!

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Unread 01-23-2011, 03:41 PM   #2
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Did you replace the switch or the key cylinder?

Sounds like more of a problem with the key cylinder.
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Unread 01-23-2011, 04:01 PM   #3
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neutral safety switch is my guess..


looks like this... it is located on the passenger side of the transmission..



loosen the adjusting bolt and push it up i believe??? might be down... i cant remember... you want if tight against that bolt though..
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Unread 01-24-2011, 04:43 AM   #4
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I replaced the switch not the key cylinder...

It can't be the NSS cuz it started with the remote start with no problems. I am going to be putting a new remote start in it and hopefully it will start.
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Unread 01-24-2011, 09:04 AM   #5
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so it starts with the remote start but not the key?
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Unread 01-24-2011, 09:07 AM   #6
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I would replace the key cylinder and be done with it.
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Unread 01-24-2011, 11:40 AM   #7
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Yes it started with the remote start until that crapped out on me, lol... but not with the key at all... I would turn the key and all the lights and chimes would come on and the fuel pump would kick on but it just won't engage the actuator rod to start it, it goes way past the run position.

Could the cylinder be causing this problem or the actuator rod, if there is an actuator rod? I need this bad boy running ASAP my only means of transportation.
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Unread 01-24-2011, 01:00 PM   #8
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There is no actuator rod to my knowledge that is all controlled buy the ignition switch, It sounds like the cylinder is bad. If it spins past the run position you either messed up putting the cylinder into your new ignition switch or your cylinder is bad. when you put the new ignition switch in you have to make sure that the column lock key is pointed to 3 oclock with the cylinder installed and in the lock position. Not sure if that made sense but the back of the switch after putting the lock cylinder in should have the column lock key pointing at 3 oclock and the park positon sensor should be all the way down
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Unread 01-24-2011, 04:36 PM   #9
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The 95+ cherokees have a lock cylinder that actually have gears in them. If your key is going farther than it should, its likely that the gears are stripped or something in it is broken.
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Unread 01-24-2011, 11:24 PM   #10
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Does the steering wheel lock and unlock with the key turned on and off? I have a 00 and I think a different column setup. Try going to a Jeep place and asking them to show you the ignition switch setup. If it has an actuator rod it will show on the screen.

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Unread 01-24-2011, 11:30 PM   #11
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The gear that is turned by your key is probably in the wrong position on the flat bar with teeth that pushes the rod down to the switch.
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Unread 01-25-2011, 11:34 AM   #12
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Thanks for all the help guys... I bought a new remote start from Autozone last night and put it in so now it starts... I am getting a new key cylinder today from a local lock shop and hopefully that fixes the key turning too far, if not then the remote start works and starts it up. I will let everyone know what the outcome is when I put the new cylinder in.
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Unread 03-20-2011, 07:17 AM   #13
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Did you Get this resolved?

I have a similar problem and was wondering whatever happened.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 06:02 PM   #14
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Hi guys! I'm new to the forum, and new to owning a Jeep as well. I bought the following vehicle a few months ago:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ifted-Pampered

I did not pay $6k. Anyways........I am having a similar problem with this 89 XJ. When I first purchased it, it ran fine for about 300 miles or so, at which point I began experiencing a no-start issue. The first fix was turning off the MAPS adjuster - it then started up fine, immediately. A week later, I removed the MAPS adjuster, and shortly thereafter, began experiencing the no-start issue again. It stopped no-starting on it's own, and was running fine - then I had a sticking problem with the key. Long story short, by disconnecting the MAPS adjuster, but not disconnecting the wires, I caused a short in the vehicle, which in turn actually melted the ignition switch (located above the steering column on this model), as well as the plugs. The melted ignition switch prevented the key from being turned properly, as the switch was not sliding.

I replaced the plugs and replaced the ignition switch. The vehicle was running fine, but was only firing with the remote starter - the key was no longer working. Fast forward 4 weeks, and after having left the Jeep sit untouched for 10 days after a business trip, now the remote starter doesn't even work. Relay and pump runs fine, dash lights and all....but no crank. My battery was dead, so I charged it up completely - still no firing.

Anyone provide me with any assistance here?

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Unread 02-18-2012, 03:18 AM   #15
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It can't be the NSS cuz it started with the remote start with no problems.
Are you sure about that? Typically the NSS is a safety feature that needs to be wired in to the remote start module, which is disabled unless it's getting a ground input from the NSS. But you can actually bypass the NSS feature by connecting that particular input wire, if so equipped, directly to the ground (obviously not recommended, but possible).
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