How to: Budget SYE

Rock Kustoms · 08-22-2005, 10:37 AM

if someone could sticky this, cuz its coming up alot....

you need 3 parts to do this, and its only budget, if your driving a 96 or newer XJ

RE Hack and tap - $90
Splicer - 211229X - $40 or $50
Front DS from an auto XJ - $20 to $60 at a junk yard

thats it, heres a link w/ some pics

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=630174

SimpleXJ · 08-22-2005, 11:36 AM

Been thinking about this for a while... how did he adapt it to the rear axle? Another specialty ujoint?

Good info, thanks.

2qk4u · 08-22-2005, 12:23 PM

If i have a 98 xj with a dana 35, can i still do this?

Islandroaddie96 · 08-22-2005, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2qk4u

If i have a 98 xj with a dana 35, can i still do this?

I think you can, but because the D35 pinion is a little shorter than the 8.25, you may need to get the DS lengthend a bit. Also depends on how much lift you have.

Good Luck,

Peter

**XJ99** · 08-22-2005, 12:52 PM

I wonder how the front shaft will hold up. It's 2" wide, while the rear shaft is 2.5" wide.. I'd like nothing more then to get rid of the t-case drop!

Nice find...

**XJ99** · 08-22-2005, 04:53 PM

Another quick question.. What would be the minimum amount of lift needed for the font drive shaft to work? Would 3"s even be enough?

NORxjCAL · 08-22-2005, 06:04 PM

good info

Rock Kustoms · 08-22-2005, 07:38 PM

it should work from stock, to about 6"

the angle only pulls it out a little.....

dcuballa · 08-22-2005, 07:47 PM

Would that driveshaft stand up to all the abuse that is put on it?? I

mravojed · 08-22-2005, 08:05 PM

Guyz, I don't get this at all with front driveshaft used as rear.. When I look under my jeep, front ds looks more like toothpick compared to beefy rear ds.

And also about the size, front seems to be at least twice as short as rear..
I can't make any pics at the moment, since it is night, but will post some tomorrow..

It is '87 Xj with manual trans, np231, d30 and d35..

n8zc · 08-22-2005, 08:09 PM

I'm wonder about this one too... Is using a used front driveshaft with any SYE a good idea? I'm sure installing new U-joints is needed, but...

I wonder about "hack & taps" vs "big $ SYE's" and using a "front DS" vs a "custom DS". What can I say, I too would like to get by as cheap as possible without losing durability and reliability.

After looking at the pictures with the link posted earlier, it helps to understand the setup... but I still wonder about the "durability and reliability".

If I was building a "rock crawler", the choice would be clear. So I guess I'll keep on reading.

Thanks,
Cary

**XJ99** · 08-22-2005, 08:12 PM

The front drive shaft should be around 26"s from yoke to yoke (at the bottom where the pinion nut is) Give or take depending on how much lift you have..

**XJ99** · 08-22-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n8zc

needed, but...

I wonder about "hack & taps" vs "big $ SYE's"

I've never heard of a Hack and Tap failing.. I've heard of people running 35's with no problems.. If they are crap, I hope I find out before buying one..

ktmracer419 · 08-22-2005, 08:40 PM

what about us guys with older xj's? can we use one of the heavy duty sye's and make this work?

Silver TeeJay · 08-22-2005, 09:45 PM

My personal opinion is this - I would rather spend the 500.00 now versus 250.00 on this special edition SYE/DS and then if (IF) it fails then have to spend the 500.00.

To each their own - I do not go off-road a ton and if I do I am not gonna see how many rocks I can climb or how deep of mud I can troush through. I am going to go out and have fun!

Yup it is my DD, it is my Mall Crawler and it is my off-roader!

08-22-2005, 11:36 AM	#2
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n8zc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Owosso, Michigan Posts: 34 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I think this question can fit in here... I'm wonder about this one too... Is using a used front driveshaft with any SYE a good idea? I'm sure installing new U-joints is needed, but... I wonder about "hack & taps" vs "big $ SYE's" and using a "front DS" vs a "custom DS". What can I say, I too would like to get by as cheap as possible without losing durability and reliability. After looking at the pictures with the link posted earlier, it helps to understand the setup... but I still wonder about the "durability and reliability". If I was building a "rock crawler", the choice would be clear. So I guess I'll keep on reading. Thanks, Cary __________________ [FONT=Comic Sans MS]"Bob" '00 XJ 4.0L Stocker with Lots-O plans. Rusty's Intake System. Hella 500's & Vision Plus Head Lamps. [URL=http://]www.geocities.com/n8zc[/URL][/FONT]

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08-22-2005, 12:23 PM	#3
2qk4u Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 82 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	If i have a 98 xj with a dana 35, can i still do this?

08-22-2005, 07:38 PM	#8
Rock Kustoms Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wolcott, CT Posts: 3,848 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	it should work from stock, to about 6" the angle only pulls it out a little.....