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Unread 01-18-2014, 06:34 PM   #31
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Use these with stock harness?
Will be brighter with the putco harness. Do not run HID in those.

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Unread 01-18-2014, 06:37 PM   #32
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Q: What's worse than a blinded driver approaching oncoming traffic?
A: Two blinded head-on drivers intending to pass within close proximity of each other.
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Unread 01-18-2014, 10:45 PM   #33
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Q: What's worse than a blinded driver approaching oncoming traffic?
A: Two blinded head-on drivers intending to pass within close proximity of each other.
Most of these people have no idea they are blinding people, and the rest just DGAF. I do a lot of night driving in some pretty remote areas, 3 of ever 5 vehicles that pass have HID's in stock housings. I have no idea how these people aren't ticketed over it. I have factory headlights on my truck, and I get flashed several times a night, when I am driving around a city. In the back woods I've forgotten my highs on a few times and not been flashed at all, guess my high beams aren't as bright as the HID ******s. I drive with my LED bar on all the time on these roads, but shut it off at the first sign of headlights, as do others. But the HID people, their lows are just blinding.
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Unread 01-18-2014, 11:19 PM   #34
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yeah I hate em. oughta be a law against it.
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Unread 01-19-2014, 06:48 PM   #35
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yeah I hate em. oughta be a law against it.
There is one. It be nice if it was actually enforced.
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Unread 01-19-2014, 07:56 PM   #36
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There is one. It be nice if it was actually enforced.
Yep. Most people aren't aware, but there's no such thing as a "DOT Approved light", the way that term is usually used. Most people think any "DOT approved" light can be installed on any vehicle. Not so. The only thing that's legal is factory replacement, or equivalent. (Like Sylvania Siverstars). All the headlight upgrading that's discussed on these forums is illegal.



If I ran a Jeep forum, it would at least be enforced on the forum. No such discussions would be allowed.
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Yep. Most people aren't aware, but there's no such thing as a "DOT Approved light", the way that term is usually used. Most people think any "DOT approved" light can be installed on any vehicle. Not so. The only thing that's legal is factory replacement, or equivalent. (Like Sylvania Siverstars). All the headlight upgrading that's discussed on these forums is illegal.



If I ran a Jeep forum, it would at least be enforced on the forum. No such discussions would be allowed.
No legal lights needed off highway though.... So on a jeep forum it would get hella complicated.

I've never heard of someone getting a ticket for headlights.
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Yep. Most people aren't aware, but there's no such thing as a "DOT Approved light", the way that term is usually used. Most people think any "DOT approved" light can be installed on any vehicle. Not so. The only thing that's legal is factory replacement, or equivalent. (Like Sylvania Siverstars). All the headlight upgrading that's discussed on these forums is illegal.



If I ran a Jeep forum, it would at least be enforced on the forum. No such discussions would be allowed.
Fascist much?
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No legal lights needed off highway though.... So on a jeep forum it would get hella complicated.

Yes, that's true. It could even get Bosch complicated!



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I've never heard of someone getting a ticket for headlights.

I've known a few that have. It's pretty rare, though.
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Unread 01-20-2014, 07:20 AM   #40
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Fascist much?

Say, do you think there might be some reason other than fascism that causes most forum owners to ban discussions of illegal mods?



Does the word, "liability", ring any bells with you?
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Unread 01-20-2014, 02:25 PM   #42
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Say, do you think there might be some reason other than fascism that causes most forum owners to ban discussions of illegal mods?

Does the word, "liability", ring any bells with you?
It be a bit of a stretch to say that the forum encourages illegal modifications unless the administration shows up recommending it. The individual users if anyone would be liable at best and even then I've seen users post much more stupid things than talking about their HIDs they stuck in stock housings.

I know CPF (candelpowerforum) bans discussion of HID in automotive applications unless it's explicitly stated by the op that the vehicle in question is off road only, and even then the threads still get locked sometimes. It's an issue that has many facets, especially on a forum with many dedicated trail rigs where no DOT rules apply.
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Unread 01-20-2014, 08:58 PM   #43
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Just put on the new harness today...and WOW...Much better. Just ordered the autopals from ebay so I will be putting them on as well. Its going to be nice to actually be able to see at night!!
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Unread 01-20-2014, 09:38 PM   #44
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It be a bit of a stretch to say that the forum encourages illegal modifications unless the administration shows up recommending it. The individual users if anyone would be liable at best and even then I've seen users post much more stupid things than talking about their HIDs they stuck in stock housings.

I know CPF (candelpowerforum) bans discussion of HID in automotive applications unless it's explicitly stated by the op that the vehicle in question is off road only, and even then the threads still get locked sometimes. It's an issue that has many facets, especially on a forum with many dedicated trail rigs where no DOT rules apply.

Well, it's enough of an issue that many forums (not just Jeep) DO ban discussions of illegal mods (lights, cat converters, etc.).

The point it, there are reasons other than "fascism".
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Unread 01-21-2014, 12:19 AM   #45
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Say, do you think there might be some reason other than fascism that causes most forum owners to ban discussions of illegal mods?



Does the word, "liability", ring any bells with you?
You made no such reference when declaring an outright ban on your hypothetical site, so yeah, that's the first thing that came to mind.
It's sad that free speech has to cower to over-zealous lawyers.
It should be enough for the web site to state that such things are not condoned or encouraged.

Now, we better stop discussing any headlight mods as most are probably illegal
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