Headlight Wiring Harness Upgrade Question - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > Models > Jeep Cherokee & Comanche Forums > XJ Cherokee Technical Forum > Headlight Wiring Harness Upgrade Question

Save 15% in XT's Pre-Black Friday Event!FS: Wranger BRIGHT License Plate LED! Just $3! Great valueIntroducing MONSTALINER™ UV Permanent DIY Roll On Bed Line

Reply
Unread 11-22-2011, 02:46 PM   #1
Kleber
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: attleboro
Posts: 70
Headlight Wiring Harness Upgrade Question

I've been throwing the thought of upgrading my headlight wiring harness around and I've decided I'll follow through, I was looking at purchasing this harness

http://www.lmctruck.com/features/cc/ccc4l.htm

But I had two questions, what is the max size bulb I can put in there? I'm looking at the HELLA H4 Series 130/90 Watt 12 V Halogen Bulb but on the harness its rated for 100/90W, so I'm wondering if I bought higher rated resistors would that allow me to put in bigger bulbs?

Thanks for the help

Kleber is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 02:59 PM   #2
CJ7-Tim
Real Jeeps have dents.
 
CJ7-Tim's Avatar
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: out in the garage - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 21,936
With Hella H-4 housings and an upgraded wire harness, 60/55w bulbs are very bright and any bulbs larger than 70/65w are overkill. 100/90 or larger will just be annoying and blinding to oncoming traffic.
__________________
.

Between 2009 when Obama took office, and 2013, median annual household incomes have fallen by more than $2,100.

Progressive Liberalism: Bringing you new Healthcare ideas so wonderful, they have to include mandatory participation ......

Originally Posted by Ronald W. Reagan: Government is not the solution to our problems; Government is the problem.
CJ7-Tim is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 03:01 PM   #3
cruiser54
Web Wheeler
 
cruiser54's Avatar
1990 MJ Comanche 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Prescott, Arizona
Posts: 10,235
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
With Hella H-4 housings and an upgraded wire harness, 60/55w bulbs are very bright and any bulbs larger than 70/65w are overkill. 100/90 or larger will just be annoying and blinding to oncoming traffic.
Correct. I have 100/90s in one of my Jeeps with the harness and I get flashed once in a while even though the lamps are aimed properly.
cruiser54 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 03:05 PM   #4
Kleber
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: attleboro
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
With Hella H-4 housings and an upgraded wire harness, 60/55w bulbs are very bright and any bulbs larger than 70/65w are overkill. 100/90 or larger will just be annoying and blinding to oncoming traffic.
Great info thanks, so that harness would be good for something along the lines of 70/65w? I'd run silverstars for the rest of winter then look into maybe rampage H4 lamps.
Kleber is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 03:09 PM   #5
CJ7-Tim
Real Jeeps have dents.
 
CJ7-Tim's Avatar
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: out in the garage - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 21,936
Cibie, Hella, IPF, or AutoPal H-4 housings. Rampage housings are not very good. 70/65w will be fine.
__________________
.

Between 2009 when Obama took office, and 2013, median annual household incomes have fallen by more than $2,100.

Progressive Liberalism: Bringing you new Healthcare ideas so wonderful, they have to include mandatory participation ......

Originally Posted by Ronald W. Reagan: Government is not the solution to our problems; Government is the problem.
CJ7-Tim is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 03:15 PM   #6
Kleber
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: attleboro
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
Cibie, Hella, IPF, or AutoPal H-4 housings. Rampage housings are not very good. 70/65w will be fine.
Okay thanks for the help
Kleber is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-22-2011, 11:44 PM   #7
NJXJ91
Registered User
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,030
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
Cibie, Hella, IPF, or AutoPal H-4 housings. Rampage housings are not very good. 70/65w will be fine.
Why dont you recommend Rampage?
NJXJ91 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-23-2011, 04:25 AM   #8
residentg
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: , NY
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
With Hella H-4 housings and an upgraded wire harness, 60/55w bulbs are very bright and any bulbs larger than 70/65w are overkill. 100/90 or larger will just be annoying and blinding to oncoming traffic.
+1

I have Hella e-codes with the e-autoworks H4 harness and they are incredably bright. The Hellas come with 60/55w bulbs, try them and "see" if you really need brighter bulbs, I doubt that you will. Make sure that you ground the harness well, and replace the 8-bezel mounting screws, which I am sure are rusted wtih #8 x 1/2 stainless steel screws. JB

http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx



http://www.jeep4x4center.com/halogen...003427861.html

residentg is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-23-2011, 05:01 AM   #9
cruiser54
Web Wheeler
 
cruiser54's Avatar
1990 MJ Comanche 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Prescott, Arizona
Posts: 10,235
Here's a hokey write-up I did after installing 3 of the eautoworks harnesses. Hope it helps.

Cruiser’s Headlight Upgrade Harness Instructions



Absolutely plug and play. Remove grille and headlamp bulbs. I fed my harnesses from the passenger side starting between the battery and the back of the headlamp housing, over to the driver side. Plug the driver side bulb into the new harness. Attach the new harness's ground wire under one of the small bolts on the radiator support after scraping the paint off under it. Attach the harness to the existing harness behind the grille working toward the passenger side. . Plug the new harness plug into passenger headlamp. Plug original headlamp plug into receptacle on new harness. Attach the ground for the passenger side just like you did the driver side under a radiator support bolt. Attach relays with provided bracket on the passenger side inner fender. Connect power wires to battery.
cruiser54 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-23-2011, 10:56 AM   #10
CJ7-Tim
Real Jeeps have dents.
 
CJ7-Tim's Avatar
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: out in the garage - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 21,936
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJXJ91 View Post
Why dont you recommend Rampage?
They look cool, but the light distirbution pattern sucks.
__________________
.

Between 2009 when Obama took office, and 2013, median annual household incomes have fallen by more than $2,100.

Progressive Liberalism: Bringing you new Healthcare ideas so wonderful, they have to include mandatory participation ......

Originally Posted by Ronald W. Reagan: Government is not the solution to our problems; Government is the problem.
CJ7-Tim is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-23-2011, 11:09 AM   #11
bobbo_xj
Registered User
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ridley Park, Pa
Posts: 222
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruiser54 View Post
Absolutely plug and play. Remove grille and headlamp bulbs. I fed my harnesses from the passenger side starting between the battery and the back of the headlamp housing, over to the driver side. Plug the driver side bulb into the new harness. Attach the new harness's ground wire under one of the small bolts on the radiator support after scraping the paint off under it. Attach the harness to the existing harness behind the grille working toward the passenger side. . Plug the new harness plug into passenger headlamp. Plug original headlamp plug into receptacle on new harness. Attach the ground for the passenger side just like you did the driver side under a radiator support bolt. Attach relays with provided bracket on the passenger side inner fender. Connect power wires to battery.
good stuff. this should save time, thanks. my weak lights will soon be a memory.
__________________
2001 XJ Sport, 170k mi.
bobbo_xj is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 04-18-2013, 07:15 AM   #12
griff95zj
Registered User
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: jane lew wv
Posts: 178
i have a question. a buddy just gave me HIDs with the projector housing yesterday, they work great until you turn the hi beams on, then one goes out, will an upgraded wiring harness fix that or do i need to put a relay in the wiring?
griff95zj is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 04-18-2013, 09:51 AM   #13
habbyguy
Registered User
1996 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 575
I went with 55/100 watt H4 bulbs (in Autopal housings). That works great, has "normal" low beams that don't annoy anyone, and maximum high-beam power. The difference in my lights (half harness, half new lights) was amazing.

griff95zj, what projector housings are you using? I've never seen any real projector housings that would fit in an XJ. What kind of pattern do they produce? I'm a big fan of a legit projector HID set-up (they put an unbelievable amount of light down the road where you need it, and less into the eyes of oncoming traffic than a regular halogen headlight), but am a huge opponent of "HID conversions" (stick a pair of HID bulbs in a halogen housing, and you put LESS light down the road than the halogens, and spray a huge amount of light around in useless, annoying directions - it's a worse "upgrade" than tinted headlights, IMHO).
habbyguy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 04-18-2013, 12:31 PM   #14
CJ7-Tim
Real Jeeps have dents.
 
CJ7-Tim's Avatar
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: out in the garage - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 21,936
Quote:
Originally Posted by habbyguy View Post
I....stick a pair of HID bulbs in a halogen housing, and you put LESS light down the road than the halogens, and spray a huge amount of light around in useless, annoying directions - it's a worse "upgrade" than tinted headlights.
QFT, don't do it.
__________________
.

Between 2009 when Obama took office, and 2013, median annual household incomes have fallen by more than $2,100.

Progressive Liberalism: Bringing you new Healthcare ideas so wonderful, they have to include mandatory participation ......

Originally Posted by Ronald W. Reagan: Government is not the solution to our problems; Government is the problem.
CJ7-Tim is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.