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Unread 12-02-2012, 06:40 PM   #1
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Fallon (and Dad) Novice Build Thread- '90 Cherry-Okee XJ - Input welcome!

Some of you have already visited my thread titled "Feeler"... when I was looking for an XJ for my son. Thanks for your help and comments. I figured I'd better start our thread now, rather than pile up a bunch of redundant stuff on a thread that shouldn't have lived for 3 pages! So this will be our data-collection site for the duration of this build. Fallon is my son. He is 13. He helped his older brother and I complete a 3 year long CJ5 resto/build, and he got the bug. But he likes Cherokees. Or Cherry-Okees, as he USED to call them! This isn't going to be much at first. I have a lot of XJ research to do, plus I have a CJ7 that I need to complete at the same time. But Fallon (or Fal, rhymes with Hal) will be pulling his own wrenches and providing the motivation. Our goal is to put 33 x 10.5 tires under it, whatever lift is needed to properly clear, some body mods, some paint, bumpers, cage, seats, and maybe some axle work. No rock crawling here, but woods, sand, mud, and water. Not building a basher/beater. This will have good road manners but capable of diving off the highway when he feels like it.

So... a 1990, 4.0L, auto, 4x4, AWD, 227,000, rattling timing chain, zero shocks, flat springs, some rust holes, runs/drives well, leaks perfectly, and needs TLC. I really have no idea what I've got, only that it looked good, started quickly, drove well, stopped well, and I thought it was worth the grand that Fal paid. I haven't determined axles, ratios, tranny/Tcase, or anything. I don't even know what options were available for drivetrain. I DO know it does not have the D44... bummer.

All doors close tight, no slop. Glass is all good. Tires have tread, but dry rot is starting. I like the factory rims... probably keep them, maybe. Needs weatherstripping all around. Some rust holes in areas around the roof rack and around the bottom corners of the windshield. The WS rust scares me a little. How is that for ease of repair? What do ya'll commonly do there?

Tranny shifts alright. Engine accelerates alright. Lots of stuff under the hood. What can I get rid of? No emissions here.

PO changed the oil before I bought it. I drove it ~120 miles home @65MPH. The oil is still clear. Like new clear! I feel like it should be a little discolored considering the cheap battery and oil filter the PO used... he probably used cheap oil too.

Besides the rust spots and bad shocks, where do I start?

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Unread 12-03-2012, 05:32 AM   #2
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Great choice in Jeeps Fallon
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Unread 12-03-2012, 05:44 PM   #3
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I would start by picking a lift height and purchasing/installing one. At some point you'll need to replace the rust with good metal.

Congratulations on the purchase.
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Unread 12-03-2012, 05:48 PM   #4
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Nice!! I was in on the Feeler thread.
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Unread 12-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #5
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243: you left off Geitner and Brian Williams
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Looks like a good XJ to start with!
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Unread 12-05-2012, 12:16 AM   #7
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Thanks, Guys, for your support. Turtle mentioned Bastard Packs in my introductory thread. I Googled that and discovered what it is. Forgive me for being CJ-oriented (I have three), but I know on a CJ you can swap springs with other vehicle (YJ, for example) and increase lift and ride quality. Is there a straightforward spring swap for XJs, or do you have to alternate S10 springs with the Bastard Pack? Is it a good, inexpensive alternative to buying a lift? Do I need 6" to clear 33s?
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Unread 12-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #8
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After reading Clay's build thread, how could one not follow this one as well. I too think the father & son builds you do are way cool. My dad and I replaced the motor on my first car (87 Maxima), so not as cool as a CJ or XJ, but still very good times and memories.

Looks like a decent starter vehicle for a build. Good luck as you get going!
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Unread 12-05-2012, 12:57 PM   #9
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After reading Clay's build thread, how could one not follow this one as well. I too think the father & son builds you do are way cool. My dad and I replaced the motor on my first car (87 Maxima), so not as cool as a CJ or XJ, but still very good times and memories.

Looks like a decent starter vehicle for a build. Good luck as you get going!
Thanks, J. Both my folks are gone now, so I'm the REAL Dad! Anything you can do with your dad is a privilege and a bonus in life. I am looking forward to the good times with Fal. Glad for you to follow along.

Going over Fal's XJ this morning, we discovered the tranny is bone dry! I suppose that could have something to do with the shifting issues!? God must have really been watching over us to drive this thing back from J'ville at night, without having gone over it from top to bottom! PO had a screwdriver stuck down between tranny cooler and radiator... we removed that. I was wondering if it was placed there on purpose, but it apparently was dropped and got lost! So a free screwdriver!

When Fal discovered the back seat folded down he called everybody outside to see! Cracked me up!!!!

Probably going to put shocks on it and let wifey use it around town. She is really, really liking this thing. I wasn't expecting that! She wants to sell the Astro and get one for herself. That is going to screw up my engine swap for my 7!
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should be able to clear 33x10.50 with a 4.5,may have to do some minor trimming.i have a rough country 4.5" with 15x8" rims 4.5" bs and 32x11.50 mud tires and i barely rub but i had to extend bumpstops.it looks like a great start to a good jeep,i like the color
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should be able to clear 33x10.50 with a 4.5,may have to do some minor trimming.i have a rough country 4.5" with 15x8" rims 4.5" bs and 32x11.50 mud tires and i barely rub but i had to extend bumpstops.it looks like a great start to a good jeep,i like the color
Thanks for the info Ken. Got any pics?
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That looks good. Along the lines of what I want to do. Thanks.
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Unread 12-05-2012, 05:42 PM   #14
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no problem if u have any ?s about it let me know i would be happy to help
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Can someone tell me about bastard packs? Is anyone running one?
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