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Unread 03-13-2011, 08:28 PM   #1
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Dash Gauges work intermittently

1998 Cherokee 4.0 Automatic. Just started happening this weekend. Started off as the gauges would occasionally not work for a few seconds and then everything was fine. Now they rarely work. No gauges work, no speedometer, odometer, oil pressure, temp gauge, etc. The airbag warning light lights up when the gauges don't work. No warning lights light up when occasionally the dash works right. Sounds like a bad connection in a wire, but where do I start to trace this? Thanks

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Unread 03-14-2011, 12:09 AM   #2
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See the info at the link. The XJ and TJ are similar.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fix-your-tjs-dead-gauges-write-up-179282/
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Thanks, definitely think thats what the problem is.
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It could be the ignition switch. Its common with crysler vehicles...
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Check for a loose IOD fuse under the hood idle off draw, and also those crap connectors on the back of the guages
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See the info at the link. The XJ and TJ are similar.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fix-your-tjs-dead-gauges-write-up-179282/
I just got a '98 XJ - I have had 6 XJs that were '89 to '94, but this is a different animal.... Do I access the cluster the same way as the TJ in the write-up?

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Slightly different to remove but easy none the less. You have remove the plastic that covers the steering column, there are two torx screws on the bottom. Then remove the screws that hold the dash bezel in place, they should be in the gauge are two there one by head light switch and one by the cig lighter. Pull off the plastic carefully. Then remove the 6 screws holding the cluster in place.
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Query on intermittently losing gauges

Did the cleaning of the connector pins work? Did you find anything else that might have caused it?

Our 98 Cherokee is doing pretty much the same thing while driving down the road but the gauges come back. The intermittent problem makes it harder to pinpoint

Thanks for any update you have to this problem.
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The problem is somewhat common and often, the DIY process at the link above solves the problem.

Jeep put together a TSB and repair kit to attmpt to solve the problem. Sometimes the reapir works, and sometimes not.


NO: 08-15-99
SUBJECT: Erratic, Intermittent Cluster Operation/Intermittent Air Bag Warning light.
DATE: May 21, 1999
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN NUMBER 08-20-98 REV. A, DATED OCTOBER 2, 1998, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES AND NOTED IN THE BOUND TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN BOOK, PUBLICATION NUMBER 81-699-99003. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION TO THE PROCEDURE.

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing a repair harness containing a revised instrument cluster connector.

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Some vehicles may exhibit an intermittent illumination of the air bag warning light or an intermittent tachometer or speedometer drop out. An Airbag Electronic Control Module (AECM) fault code -"No Cluster CCD BUS " message will be present.

DIAGNOSIS:
Using the DRB III?, read and record all active and stored fault codes in the AECM. This condition is caused by minor oxidation of the BUS circuit terminals at the instrument cluster connector. Electrical terminals will show signs of oxidation, which will appear as darkened lines or marks on the cluster male terminals. These often appear as gray or black marks rather than the appearance of oxidation or corrosion usually associated with higher current carrying circuits. This condition will set a "NO CLUSTER CCD BUS" message. The fault code will usually be stored and not active. THIS TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN WILL NOT ADDRESS FUEL OR OIL PRESSURE GAUGE ISSUES. If this fault code is present, either active or stored perform the Repair Procedure.

PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
1 05016261AA Cluster Connector Patch Harness
1 04856975 Electric Contact Cleaner
2 04778570 Heat Shrink Tubing


REPAIR PROCEDURE:
THIS REPAIR IS COMPATIBLE WITH DAIMLERCHRYSLER'S MOBILE SERVICE PROGRAM AND DOES NOT REQUIRE HOISTS OR OTHER FULL SERVICE FACILITY SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.


Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the instrument cluster using the procedures outlined in the appropriate servicemanual.
Inspect the male terminals of pins 1 & 2 on the instrument cluster connector labeled CNB (See Figure 1). The oxidation will appear as gray or black lines or marks on the terminals. If any signs of oxidation are present, remove them by gently scraping the terminals with a small flat bladed screw driver until the oxidation is gone. Use of a magnifying glass may be helpful (See Figure 2). Use caution when performing this operation. Do not apply excessive force to the terminals to avoid bending them or damaging the cluster or terminals. Do not use a sharp tool, knife or sand paper, which could remove the protective plating from the terminals. Do not use any cleaner other than p/n 04856975. Other chemical cleaners could damage the instrument cluster.
Clean the male terminals with Electrical Contact cleaner, p/n 04856975. Apply the cleaner sparingly holding the cluster with the connector facing down to avoid excessive amount of cleaner from entering the cluster.
Remove the green cluster connector from the bracket.
Using wire cutters, remove the instrument cluster harness connector from the harness. Remove only the connector containing the BUS circuit (See Figure 1). This connector is labeled CBA on the cluster. Cut the wires as close to the insulator as possible.
The new connector must be soldered onto the harness. This operation requires a technician who is skilled at soldering to avoid a cold solder joint. Position the harness and align the wires with the patch harness, matching the color codes match the main wire colors.
NOTE: THE XJ INSTRUMENT PANEL CONTAINS ONE MORE CIRCUIT IN THIS CONNECTOR THAN THE TJ. CUT THE UNUSED WIRE CLOSE TO THE CONNECTOR ON TJ MODELS.

Stagger cut the main harness and patch harness wires so that the solder joints will be 1/2 inch apart. Remove 1/2 inch of insulation from the wires. The new harness will have a dark blue with no tracer. This will mate with a dark blue wire with a green tracer on TJ and with a dark blue wire with a white tracer on XJ.
Slide a piece of heat shrink tubing over the wires and twist the wires together for each respective circuit.
Solder each circuit using rosin core solder. Be sure to heat the wire enough to allow the solder to melt when it comes in contact with wire. Do not use acid core solder.
Position the heat shrink tubing over the solder joints and shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Install the connector to the bracket.
Install the instrument cluster.
Connect the battery cable.
Verify correct operation of the cluster.
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