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post #121 of 379 Old 08-23-2011, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
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love the look on those wheels. so bad ***.
Thanks, i like 'em too. I think the rim stiffener really makes the wheels look sick. And if i bend an outer lip with these things, idk what ill do lol.


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post #122 of 379 Old 08-23-2011, 08:34 PM
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where did u get those rim stiffeners?

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where did u get those rim stiffeners?
Copperhead fab...i wouldnt reccomend them, theyre customer service is some of the worst ive ever gotten.

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post #124 of 379 Old 08-25-2011, 12:46 AM Thread Starter
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Well, the rear wheel fell off. Yep, fell off. I felt the rear of the jeep wobbling around, so i slowed down, it wobbled more, i slowed down more. I stopped in the side of the road, everything seemed tight, driveshaft, u bolts.

I finally limp it to my street, and i make the turn, and the jeep falls on top of the tire, it was wedged between the axle and the rear quarter panel... What a great feeling that was.

I walk to my house, grab the jack, walk back down to the HEEP, put it on 4 low, put the jack under the pumpkin and start to drive. I make it all of 4 feet, and the jack falls over, and so does the jeep. Next i put under the axle tube, drive about 50 feet, and it fell off. I finally limp it into my driveway.

I look, and the wheel studs failed on the axle. They looked kinda rusty, and the scored up near the base, but i thought theyd be alright, im guessing with the strain from that spool, they just broke one by one, until the wheel fell off.

Backing plate, as well as rear brake is fubar'd.

All in all, it sucks ***, but im just happy it didnt happen on the highway/near anyone that could get hurt etc.

I guess i need new studs now







Tommorow i gotta grab some pics of the street, theres a grind mark from the jack all the way down the road. lol.

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post #125 of 379 Old 08-25-2011, 01:25 AM
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its not from the spool. its from the wheel spacer. They put un needed load on the studs. All around they are bad ideas.

Drag cars run spools with 1000 + whp on slicks with perfect traction for seasons without stud issues.
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I agree, ditch the spacers. It doesn't look like they were centering on your axle flange, basically riding on just those puny 7/16" studs in single sheer.
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Man you are so lucky this happened at low speeds, this is the second situation I've heard of in the past week that could have been disasterous! My friend 97tjeff sheered his front driver side lower CA bolt and lost the CA connection to the axle. If he was going faster then 30 mph his axle could have wandered and pulled the jeep with it causing a severe roll over.

I'm just glad your wheel went out at low speeds and near your home.
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ive have a similar problem but with the front wheel and going down the mtn.



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its not from the spool. its from the wheel spacer. They put un needed load on the studs. All around they are bad ideas.

Drag cars run spools with 1000 + whp on slicks with perfect traction for seasons without stud issues.
Ive got no choice but to run spacers.

Like i said, the studs, had a groove around the base, i guess the last guy with these axles, ran it with the lug nuts loose so the rim damaged the studs. They were also rusty.

Theres plenty of guys running wheel spacers without issue, i used to run them front and rear, with no issues.

These spacers are actually hub centric.

I know for a fact the spool helped the wheel fall off, theres much more stress while making turns, and the turn onto my street is very sharp, and thats where it finally failed completely.

Im sure its a mix between the wheel spacers, the ****ty old studs, and of course the spool.

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I agree, ditch the spacers. It doesn't look like they were centering on your axle flange, basically riding on just those puny 7/16" studs in single sheer.
They are hub centric.

It was the ****ty old studs.

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Man you are so lucky this happened at low speeds, this is the second situation I've heard of in the past week that could have been disasterous! My friend 97tjeff sheered his front driver side lower CA bolt and lost the CA connection to the axle. If he was going faster then 30 mph his axle could have wandered and pulled the jeep with it causing a severe roll over.

I'm just glad your wheel went out at low speeds and near your home.
Glad to hear that he didnt get hurt, im also glad it happened on my street.

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Yep, people don't maintain those spacers as often as they should and once they break loose they will reak havok on those studs, causing major stress. Aluminum spacers will expand more then metal when heated up so that can cause the nuts to become loose. Best to always retighten and check those spacer nuts anytime you do your rotation.

Overall spacers are perfectly fine to run. I know many people that have ran spacers for years with absolutely zero problems, as long as they regularly maintained them. I'll be running custom spacers on my front D30 to match the width and bolt pattern of my rear JK D44.
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I run spacers too but I have eight 9/16" studs holding them on at each end.

It looks like there's enough meat on the axle flange to drill out for bigger studs, and room in the spacer for them. If you absolutely have to run the spacers, I'd recommend bigger studs. It's cheap insurance.
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Yep, people don't maintain those spacers as often as they should and once they break loose they will reak havok on those studs, causing major stress. Aluminum spacers will expand more then metal when heated up so that can cause the nuts to become loose. Best to always retighten and check those spacer nuts anytime you do your rotation.

Overall spacers are perfectly fine to run. I know many people that have ran spacers for years with absolutely zero problems, as long as they regularly maintained them. I'll be running custom spacers on my front D30 to match the width and bolt pattern of my rear JK D44.
Totally agree. Those hubcentric spacers are perfectly fine as long as they are thick enough to have a separate set of studs. I run a set myself with no issues - they just have to be maintained/checked regularly.

Wheel "shims" are the dangerous ones - like you find on ****ty hondas

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sexy jeep man..... got a little bored and decided to edit one of your pics

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