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Unread 12-01-2010, 12:54 PM   #1
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Cherokee Diesel

Not sure if this is the correct section, but Ill post here since it gets the most hits.

Just want to see how many people are actually interested in such a vehicle.

I have a planned build ready to roll with a very affordable pricetag. The reason I ask; I get bored with things rather quickly and want to make sure I could get my moneys worth out of it if my automobile A-D-D kicks in. If I get bored, Ill sell it and buy a wrangler. (I may just end up buying a wrangler instead of building this beast.)

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Mercedes-Benz OM617A I-5 TurboDiesel, fully mechanical, nothing to break, its bulletproof. Plenty of torque. 24MPG highway. Will easily last 500k miles if maintained. Parts are everywhere for it (worldwide). And the most compatible engine for use with WVO or BioDiesel.

6.5" Lift custom installed by Galloways 4x4 center.

Stock AX-15 5-speed Trans

Stock Tcase.

May need 410 gears depending on tire size.


Price complete would more than likely be around 5k USD or less.


Any interests?
-Grimm

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Unread 12-01-2010, 01:04 PM   #2
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sounds frickin sweet! what year cherokee,
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Unread 12-01-2010, 01:23 PM   #3
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well....it sure does sounds cool lol.
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Unread 12-01-2010, 01:37 PM   #4
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thumbs up for Galloways. i grew up right by there and i stop by every time im at uwharrie
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Unread 12-01-2010, 01:38 PM   #5
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I'd wheel it.

Seriously, a diesel Jeep is my dream come true. I love diesel power but I hate common rail, but it's a necessary evil if you want any Jeep offerings in diesel on this side of the pond.

I've thought about getting an old diesel from a Benz and seeing what it would take to drop into an XJ.
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Unread 12-01-2010, 02:41 PM   #6
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Would love to swap a diesel into my jeep....

Clean diesel is the fuel of the future!
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Unread 12-01-2010, 02:44 PM   #7
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i would buy it.
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Unread 12-01-2010, 03:28 PM   #8
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Would love to swap a diesel into my jeep....

Clean diesel is the fuel of the future!
To bad all these companies are going electric and crap, they dont even know whats good!!!
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Unread 12-02-2010, 06:14 AM   #9
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Glad you guys have an interest in this idea!

The swap isnt too bad at all from my research so far. I can use the AX-15, as I can get the OM617 to bolt right up to it; all that must be fabricated are engine mounts and a few smaller things like joining the power steering linkage ends together. The Vickers power-steering pump on the OM617 should be plenty sufficient for the XJ, and for nearly any vehicle it could ever be swapped into. And also, the vacuum provided by the OM617 should be enough to drive any vac powered accessories as well.

The only issue is oil pan clearance. You will need a small lift kit for the oil pan to clear the front diff. Or you can modify the pan a bit. Most of us on here have lifts, so that's really no big deal.

Also, the swap wont work in the Peugeot equipped Wranglers and Cherokees at this time. Sorry all you 4.2 guys

I can do the swap on any AX-15 equipped Wranglers as well.

If built, this is going to be a R&D car for a BioDiesel lab, my daily driver, and my off-road machine, all while getting at least 20MPG.

Anyhow, I am selling this Nissan I have before I can go farther. And I found a Wrangler TJ for 3500 I am going to look at as well before I decide.

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Unread 12-02-2010, 07:54 AM   #10
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If someone would come up with a definitive write-up detailing the exact procedure and keep the costs low I would defintely do it.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 06:31 PM   #11
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Specs:
Mercedes-Benz OM617A I-5 TurboDiesel, fully mechanical, nothing to break, its bulletproof. Plenty of torque. 24MPG highway. Will easily last 500k miles if maintained. Parts are everywhere for it (worldwide). And the most compatible engine for use with WVO or BioDiesel.

Price complete would more than likely be around 5k USD or less.
-Grimm
My other car is a 83 Mercedes 300SD with the 617 turbo engine. I think you are a little optimistic about nothing to break and bulletproof but they are very durable engines and with proper care can run 500k and more. They have about 123 HP but a lot of torque.
I always thought this would be a good conversion.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 10:04 PM   #12
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Definitely is a great swap.

Eh, maybe a little bit optimistic, but my friend has 4 of them. He has put over 400k miles on one, 250k on the other, and 700k on the oldest. Never had an ounce of trouble aside from regular maintenance. His kids still drive the one with 700k (probably about to hit 750k by now). He drives alottttt due to work and so does his wife/kids.

Amazing little engines.

EDIT:
Actually, he did have trouble out of the 700k at one time, I think it was an injector pump. Bought one for like 200$ from Craigslist if I remember correctly.

Also, what I meant by "price complete" in the first post was a complete jeep turnkey with a clean title and decent body. The conversion is muchhhhhhh cheaper if you already have a jeep. That price was just my estimate to build a complete trail-ready Cherokee exactly like I want and to my specs.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 10:36 PM   #13
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I was thinking (more like dreaming) of doing this with a Cummin's 4BT. I've seen it in a TJ. It would be awesome in my XJ.
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Unread 12-03-2010, 09:08 AM   #14
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A Cummins 4BT would be awesome. I love the sound of those little engines.

But to be honest, the Cummins doesn't seem to be worth the hassle. More work involved and also, incredibly expensive. A decent 4BT costs around 2k-4k these days; much more expensive than the Benz. I can get a complete running car; a 300d (Turbo OM617A) for anywhere between 300-800$ and most of the time they have transmission issues/no problems whatsoever with the engine. Many of them have around 200k miles, which in OM617 miles is like 30k on a regular engine.

Also, the Mercedes diesels are so cheap that for the price of the cummins, you could buy like 3 of them, scrap the 300d's and still have a assload of money left over for lift kit and extra goodies. Thats my kind of engine!

I reallyyyy would love to put one of these in a 1995 Grand Cherokee, but they didnt come with the 5-speed AX-15 as an option. A black one with 6.5 inches of lift, 33's, all blacked out, deep window tints, roof rack, Navigation, Mini fridge, Road armour bumpers, HID hella's.... Dream Jeep... Haha
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Unread 12-03-2010, 09:33 AM   #15
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This is why I hate living in NY.

I'd love to have a mechanical injection diesel 5 speed cherokee ... or any type of truck/suv. Thanks to the green people, can't do it
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