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Unread 07-20-2007, 11:43 PM   #31
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Good points. I did not deal with a JY axle but, I understand what you are saying. As far as the lines; My 8.8 had roughly 20,000 on it and looked brand new.($100, open and 4.10's) I was lifting it at the same time and needed a longer brake hose, so that's the route I went. It was cheap and easy for me at the time.

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Unread 07-20-2007, 11:53 PM   #32
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Wait, arent you the same guy whos mom wouldnt let him offroad? (sorry to bring that up, its just ironic) Now your planning on 4.88s and 35s.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 12:16 AM   #33
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My 8.8 had roughly 20,000 on it and looked brand new.($100, open and 4.10's) I was lifting it at the same time and needed a longer brake hose, so that's the route I went. It was cheap and easy for me at the time.

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Not bad

I had to pay 350 (~450$) for my '93, unknown mileage. Brakes apart, it was in good condition though. But that's a good excuse for upgrading to disc brakes - complete OEM Ford Performance rear disc set for 350, not bad IMO (especially knowing the usual high prices for OEM US- car parts here).
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Unread 07-21-2007, 12:25 AM   #34
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Bloomington, IN?

Hell, I know people there!

Ever go in NAPA?
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Unread 07-21-2007, 05:05 AM   #35
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Wait, arent you the same guy whos mom wouldnt let him offroad? (sorry to bring that up, its just ironic) Now your planning on 4.88s and 35s.
yep, thats me, lol

my parents decided that they didnt care what i did with it anymore

i also made my mom read eric's book and that helped her understand what i wanted to do with my XJ
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Unread 07-21-2007, 05:06 AM   #36
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Bloomington, IN?

Hell, I know people there!

Ever go in NAPA?

no but im thinkin that i gotta make a couple trips to NAPA to get some parts later on
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Unread 07-21-2007, 09:56 AM   #37
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The bent thing looks more like a dust shield then a backing plate.

Somone correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not familiar with an 8.8.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 10:03 AM   #38
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It's kind of both - disc brake is the operating brake, and the small diameter drum brake is the handbrake. So it has a backing plate/ dust shield thingy just like most older rear disc brake systems.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 10:25 AM   #39
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so how do i go about getting that fixed, i called NAPA and advance auto parts and they didnt have one in their catalog

how do i get the plate off??
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There should be four bolts or studs behind the plate, and IIRC nuts on the "inside" of the drum/ rotor assembly. It doesn't look like yours is too badly damaged so you could try bending it straight and see what happens. The only thing you'll loose is some time if it doesn't work.


But since you talked about getting new rotors, new backing plates and new calipers, you might wanna check this out:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=1790


It's Ford Racing OEM brake kit, and costs 379$, has all the parts you need and is a direct bolt on. Buying all the parts separately from an auto parts store could end up being more expensive, I ordered the same kit for me. It's actually funny how I got it at such a low price; 350€ (which is ~450$). Considering you have to add shipping costs, 4,7% import tax + 22% VAT and dealer profit, I literally got the kit very cheap.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 11:42 AM   #41
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thats not a bad idea, im gonna try and take it off and bend it back into shape, if i bend it back out, is it better to just buy brakes and calipers seperate (if i dont need the backing plate)
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Unread 07-21-2007, 04:36 PM   #42
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how do i go about pulling out the axle shaft, do i take of the cover and unbolt the bolts on the sides of the pumpkin??

then does the axle shaft slide out?? i have to pull out the c-clip right??
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To pull shafts out, it's just like any c-clip axle; pop the cover -> open the cross pin retaining bolt (I used 8mm wrench, could be 5/16" too.. dunno if that bolt is metric or SAE but both work) -> slide out the retaining pin -> push shaft toward pumpkin -> remove c- clip with needle-nose pliers -> remove shaft -> do the same to the other shaft.

You do not need to open the carrier bearing retainer bolts to remove the shafts. You only need to open them if you want to get the carrier out.
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Unread 07-21-2007, 06:10 PM   #44
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thanks for all ur help so far Timo 90

today i got the shock bracket off the pumpkin, grinded off all brackets, removed axle shafts, removed disc brake backing plates and caliper mounts

here are some pics of what i got done today:










backing plates are pretty much shot, so im gonna do it the right way and replace it with the kit that Timo showed me

are the axle shaft splines okay (not sure how they are supposed to be since ive never looked at one before)


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Unread 07-21-2007, 07:27 PM   #45
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how should i go about painting this thing??

does washing it off, grinding the bracket spots clean and covering up the ends of the axle (where the shafts attach to the housing), prime it and then spray it with a semi-gloss black work??

what did u guys do??
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