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RedZeppelinXJ 08-29-2009 04:42 PM

Budget Builds: What junkyard parts will fit an XJ?
 
Hey guys for the sake of everyone doing budget junkyard builds I was wondering what parts from other vehicles will fit an XJ with little or no modification that will help the performance/offroad capabilities of the XJ....feel free to post your mods and links to build threads if you have them.....this thread is to help new guys on a budget get started

***note that these are not all bolt in mods, but can be done by most who are mechanically inclined with the right tools

Here is the latest re-cap of what we have found:

Suspension & Lift:

-Front End:

1.ZJ V8 Upcountry Coils = 1-1.5" lift
2.F-150/Bronco Coils ('70s-ish) = 4-4.5" lift
3.Camaro Spring Isolators = 1.5" lift
4.ZJ spring isolators = stronger, metal core, can be stacked
5.Thunderbird Front Coils ('83-97) = 3-4" lift (varies in lift and softness by year and trim package), will need top plate from strut too
6.TJ Lift Coils (front only) = provide 1" less lift on an XJ than on a TJ
-Rear End:

1.Bastard Pack: Any 2.5" wide leaf spring can be used between to make a bastard pack (they may differ in stiffness and lift) i.e. S10, Dakota
2.MJ Shackles = 1/2" lift
3.GM fullsize pickup shackles ('95-99) = 1.5" lift, better shackle angle
-Misc:

1.JK shocks = slight mod to fit 2-4" lift (must be from JK Rubicon, BPEs are not required, you need to press out the metal sleeves from the JK shocks, and insert the XJ stock bar pins to the axle-side part of the front shocks, and the body-side of the rear shocks.)
2.S10 Shocks (Rear only) = good for the lift you will get when you do a bastard pack
3.Ford Exploder rear sway-bar links = may be good for 3-4" lift
4.WJ rear sway bar end-links = minor fab to fit 3-4" lift
5.WJ LCA's = more tire clearance (some grinding required)
6.WJ rear LCA's = replace XJ front LCA's, 2" longer to accommodate a lift, some grinding required
7.V8 ZJ front sway-bar
8.JK rear UCA = use as XJ LCA, its about 1-2" longer
9.Ford Bonco II (thats the little one like a ranger) Front Swaybar = good for 3-4" lift

Brakes:

-Booster, MC, etc:

1.WJ brake booster, master cylinder, proportioning valve
2.ZJ brake booster, master cylinder, proportioning valve = may need for disc conversion
3.XJ '95+ brake booster and master cylinder = dual diaphragm, larger bore
4.WJ Rotors/Calipers = bigger brakes and more stopping power (will fit 15" rims)
5.KJ disc brake set-ups can be used for a conversion on your XJ axle
-Lines:

1.YJ Brake Lines = 3-4" longer
2.Dakota Rear Softlines ('87-96) = 6" longer
3.GM C/K1500 Front Softlines ('90-95) = 6" longer
4.Dodge Ram Van Brake Lines = 10-12" longer (for big lifts), some dispute
5.
5.JK Front Brake Lines = bolt-in and long (can max out 12" shocks and still have slack)

Axles:

-Bolt-in Swap:

1.XJ C8.25 Rear ('97+) = bolt in and upgrades to 29 spline (strength comparable to D44)
2.XJ D44 Rear = found in some but not all '87-'89 XJ's with Towing Package
3.XJ D30 Front = ('95-'99) non-disconnect, larger u-joints, high pinion
4.XJ I-4 & some V6 = may have 3.73, 4.10, or 4.56 gears may have vacuum discos
-Moderate Fab to Fit:

1.Ford 8.8 inch Rear ('97+) = need spring & shock mounts (3.55, 3.73, or 4.10, maybe LSD, Disc Brakes)
2.MJ D44 Rear = need new spring perches and shock mounts
3.MJ AMC 20 Rear = need spring perches and shock mounts
4.Ford HP44/9" Combo = full width, more intense fab
-Misc:

1.Lincoln Lockers = welded spider gears, operates like a spool, must be a GOOD welder
2.G80 LSD locker from '90s Turbo Volvo with D30 rear for XJ front D30 (beware with larger tires)
3.Homebrew posi-locks for '84-90 vacuum disconnect D30s, eliminates vacuum actuation
4. ZJ D30 CV shafts can be used in place of XJ u-joint shafts in '92+ D30's

Steering:

1.ZJ V8 Tierods = beefier & bolt in
2.WJ Knuckles/Tierods/Draglinks = beefier and crossover steering
3.Durango Steering Box = beefier
4.GM 2wd fullsize truck steering box = beefy, helps for wb stretch
5.Astro Van steering box = good for long wb stretch
6.ZJ pitman arm = 1 inch drop over stock
7.WJ power steering pump (fits '96+, plug return hole, and use XJ pulley)


Engine:

-Performance:

1.Newer XJ intakes (may require some modification)
2.Mustang 5.0 Injectors = near bolt in (have 4 holes instead of 1, more fuel, better spray)
3.Dodge Neon Injectors = better throttle response
4. Stroker Motor......SEARCH
-Alternator:

1.Mopar 136Amp Alternator, bolt it (slight grinding required) found in: 97-98 Dodge Full Size Van, 97-1998 Dodge Dakota, 97-98 Dodge Durango, 97-98 Dodge Ram, 97-98 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2. Dakota (2.5L I-4) Alternator = bolt in, upgrades to 117A
-Cooling:

1.Ford Electric Fan ('90-95 3.8L Taurus, '87-93 5.0L Mustang) = replaces mechanical fan, more cooling (8C607)
2.Hoodvents (i.e. Lebaron, Laser, Turbo Thunderbird etc.) = help keep ur 4.0 cool at low speeds
3.You can convert the closed system to open without replacing your radiator by using the fill cap from a 4.7 durango or dakota, cutting it into your upper hose, and replace your bottle with an MJ overflow tank or any that fit. Then cap off or eliminate the T'ed lines in the heater core.
-Swaps:

1.For '84-'86 XJ with 2.8L GM V6 only! you can swap in any 60* GM V6 engine, they use the same motor mounts and bellhousings, engine options include 3.1L, and 3.4L etc, but DOES NOT INCLUDE 90* GM V6 engines such as the 4.3L!!! this swap will allow you to gain horsepower, torque, and fuel injection

Transmission:

1.ZJ and WJ stock tranny coolers with stacked plates (even an upgrade for us with the stock fin style)
2.'94+ V6 Dakota AX-15 = bolt in (but must use XJ bellhousing), good upgrade from AX-5
3. Renix Transmission (swap electric speedo to t-case)

Transfer Case:

1.'89+ AX-15 5spd crossmembers give 3/4 inch t-case drop on autos with no loss in ground clearance
2.Homebrew Slip Yoke Eliminator (use search function)
3.NV241-OR (from TJ Rubicon only) = near bolt in, 4:1 low range
4.Doubler Options : NP231/NP231, NP231/D300

Body/Exterior/Armor:

1.XJ '97+ doors onto older cherokees = one piece windows and better mirrors
2.’97+ mirrors are direct bolt in to older XJ's and allow you to fold them in on tight trails.
3.GM power antennas replace your broken XJ's with little modification
4.'96-00 Ford Explorer hatch shocks = lift your hatch about 3" lower but are beef (ever see one that doesn't work?) need modification for '97+
5.TJ Fender Flares (front and rear or rear all the way around)
6.Wheels from XJ, ZJ, TJ, YJ, Explorer, Magnum Steelies (17x7) (any with 5x4.5 bolt pattern) will fit....CJ, WJ, WK, KK, JK, Full-Size Ford 5 bolt rims will NOT fit
7.OEM swing-out tire carriers, get the bumper with it, found mainly on '84-'90 XJ's
8.ZJ skid plates = require slight modification, but can be made to work
9.OEM skid plates (Front, Tranny, T-case, gas tank, found on "up-country" package XJ's not the same as a Country Edition)
10.YJ/TJ Mirrors = bigger, fold in, look cool
11. Ford Windstar Hatch Struts = lift high and strong
12. Bronco II swing out tire carrier - slight mod to fit via S10 Shackles (see post 418 or http://i51.tinypic.com/2uhpso4.jpg)

Interior:

1.MJ/2 Door XJ Bucket seats = tilt forward, near bolt in
2.XJ overhead console = most commonly found in '00-01 or higher trim level, provides space for switches etc.
3.'97+ center console = can be made to fit '96 and older, gives you cupholders
4.Grand Cherokee center console lid = sits higher, but gives rear passengers cupholders
5.ZJ and WJ Seats - get brackets too, may require some drilling but gives you leather :-)
6. ZJ shift knob, direct replacement for XJ knob


*view following posts for more details.....and feel free to ask questions and as always....SEARCH!!!

**Also Blazin Den has made a list of links to build threads for us! Recap with Links!

*** PM ME IF YOU HAVE LINKS TO BUILDS FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS AND I'LL UPDATE THE LIST

xjfever 08-29-2009 04:50 PM

Jk wrangler shocks will work for 2 to 4" of lift. YJ brakelines are 3" to 4" longer and bolt right up.

XJohnnyC 08-29-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedZeppelinXJ (Post 7841083)
V8 ZJ front coils (for 1.5" lift)

That's BS. Maybe BRAND NEW coils will give you that much lift. But used ones only gave me 1/2".

Junkyard parts I have on my 92 MJ.

97+ doors
97+ door weatherstripping
97+ header panel
97+ center console
97+ auxiliary fan
97+ vacuum canister
ZJ shifter knob
Explorer rear disc brakes
WJ brake booster and master cylinder
York 210 out of an AMC Eagle

I also have a 99 Durango steering box, but that was a reman unit. And I pull every 99+ intake manifold I find, although I haven't done this mod on my Jeep yet.

Haleyrz 08-29-2009 05:50 PM

Great thread, I was curious about the same stuff. Do the Jk shocks bolt right up? And do the s10/Dakota springs bolt right up? I want about 3" of lift. What springs give what?

xjfever 08-29-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaleyWJ (Post 7841316)
Great thread, I was curious about the same stuff. Do the Jk shocks bolt right up? And do the s10/Dakota springs bolt right up? I want about 3" of lift. What springs give what?

Are you lifting an XJ, or the WJ?

BRad704 08-29-2009 06:05 PM

For the instructions on the leaf springs, search the forum for "bastard pack"

RedZeppelinXJ 08-29-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaleyWJ (Post 7841316)
Great thread, I was curious about the same stuff. Do the Jk shocks bolt right up? And do the s10/Dakota springs bolt right up? I want about 3" of lift. What springs give what?

most people us the XJ main spring then cut the eyes off the S10 or Dakota mains and use them next then stack the springs as needed until the desired lift is reached.....i'll be doing that over x-mas break when i'm home from school and with my jeep....i miss it lol

Haleyrz 08-29-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjfever (Post 7841331)
Are you lifting an XJ, or the WJ?

Sold the wj, pickin up an xj on Monday. And thanks for the clue on what to type in for the search. I'll look into it more when I get off work

xjfever 08-29-2009 07:45 PM

The S-10 or dakota packs neither one will bolt right up, You have to use your main along with the main from the donor pack and whatever combo you need for the lift you want to acheive. Usually using the XJ main and entire S-10 pack will get you around 4" of lift. The V8ZJ coils are a direct swap, but only give around 1" of lift. New lift coils can be had for around 100.00 and are a better option than ZJ coils and spacers. The JK shocks require a little modification but it is very easy to convert them to fit the XJ. There's a lot of info in the tech/faq section at the top of the page under budget lifts and everyone here will gladly answer any questions you have. Welcome to the square headlight section.

natertots 08-29-2009 08:16 PM

What about engine parts, I know Ive read something about 5.0 injectors and a newer year intake manifold. Can someone clarify on this and maybe add a few more?

edit: also, I want to eventually do an axle swap, does the ford explorer rear really bolt up with only new perches and shock mounts? And what is the max tire it can run. I want to do 37's in the distant future, geared correctly of course.

RedZeppelinXJ 08-29-2009 09:49 PM

ok so here is a quick re-cap to any new post readers

Confirmed:
ZJ front coils = net only about 1 inch lift
S10 packs (cut eyes off main & bolt springs to XJ main) = 3-4" lift
JK shocks = slight mod to fit 2-4" lift
WJ brake booster & master cylinder = stop faster
YJ brake lines = bolt in & 3-4" longer
ZJ shift knob = replaces XJ knob
'97+ Ford 8.8" rear (need new spring perches, shock & track bar mounts) = 4.10 gears, LSD, disc brakes
Newer Intakes (with modification)
V8 ZJ Tierods = stronger than I6

Rumored:
ZJ alternators
5.0 Injectors

RedZeppelinXJ 08-29-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natertots (Post 7841937)
edit: also, I want to eventually do an axle swap, does the ford explorer rear really bolt up with only new perches and shock mounts? And what is the max tire it can run. I want to do 37's in the distant future, geared correctly of course.

The 8.8 is slightly stronger than a Dana 44.....but won't match a 60 or 14bolt
i would say 37's would be ok with the LSD as long as ur easy on the skinny pedal and maybe upgrade to some good gears and chromo shafts

Kettles 08-29-2009 10:13 PM

ZJ tie rod from a v8 zj is a direct bolt in, and is stronger (the I6 zj had the same as the xj).

natertots 08-30-2009 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedZeppelinXJ (Post 7842542)
The 8.8 is slightly stronger than a Dana 44.....but won't match a 60 or 14bolt
i would say 37's would be ok with the LSD as long as ur easy on the skinny pedal and maybe upgrade to some good gears and chromo shafts

I just have no idea how to make a full length axle fit under an XJ and actually I have no idea about axles at all. They are completely foreign to me. So the closer to bolt in, to run 37s I can get, the better.

ep191 08-30-2009 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natertots (Post 7843237)
I just have no idea how to make a full length axle fit under an XJ and actually I have no idea about axles at all. They are completely foreign to me. So the closer to bolt in, to run 37s I can get, the better.

Before I say this, I want to say in no way am I trying to sound like an ***.


You should not be running 37's, period.

If you want me to go more in depth, make another thread because I don't want to clutter this thread with a rant.


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