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post #1 of 13 Old 05-23-2013, 05:58 AM Thread Starter
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I've been concerned about my ball joints so I did a check myself with the front jacked up. I did the grabbing at 3 and 9 also the 12 and 6 position and felt no looseness. I then laid down so's I could look at them and had my son stick a bar under the tire and lifted it up I did see some up and down play(maybe about 1/8th inch on right front 1/16th on drivers side). I tried to research this here and on youtube which made me more worried. So I took it to Tiresplus to get the front end checked (alignment) and they didn't find anything wrong.
Should I still be concerned or am I just blowing this out of proportion?


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post #2 of 13 Old 05-23-2013, 11:24 AM
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Retail tires stores like Tires Plus, NTB, Discount Tire are mostly helpless and clueless, especially when dealing with 4x4's or lifted 4x4's. They often have great difficulty with getting all the lug nuts on, and then torqueing them correctly.

Find an independent tire shop, or a frame and alignment shop, and have a skilled and experienced technician perform an inspection.

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post #3 of 13 Old 05-23-2013, 02:45 PM
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A good alignment shop is worth the cost. The amount of movement you saw is not that bad. Are you having issues? If not then keep an eye on things until they get worse.

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post #4 of 13 Old 05-23-2013, 02:49 PM
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Although its a small amount of play, they are obviously getting loose. You probably still have time but just know that any play in them means that your taking life off your current tires. When the time comes to replace them go with XRF, best price and longest lasting out there. Might as well do u joints and maybe your hubs while you have it open, easy to do when your doing ball joints.

How many miles are on them now?
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post #5 of 13 Old 05-24-2013, 07:47 AM Thread Starter
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Tires are ok, no problems. Its just that I hear a popping sound when I hit bumps or when I stop. I use to think that my brakes were doing this so I replaced the calipers, rotors , and pads. Also I replaced the hub on the passenger side but it never stopped it. I've looked at the uni joints at the axles and can't find any play in them. I rarely go off road or drive aggressively. Just wondering if its safe to continue driving like this or should I be concerned. Times are tight so I'm trying to save every dime I can. Just curious were can I find these XRF joints? Also how much do they run , cost wise?

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post #6 of 13 Old 05-24-2013, 12:55 PM
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Check your axle u joints again with a large screwdriver or small pry bar, pry under the yoke ear up and down and side to side, if your hub is good you wont notice the joint moving when you tug on the tire. I only say this because mine was bad a while back and was making that popping noise when I came to a stop.

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post #7 of 13 Old 05-26-2013, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Checking

Just checked the front end (axle) u-joints with a crowbar and a large screwdriver and could not find any play in them.
If and when I do change the ball joints, I thought about going back with original Dana Spicer ones and wondered what everyone thinks about doing that?

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The wheel bearing could be going bad ... They get lose when they go bad. I stopped torquing them to the proper amount and cranked down the axle nut tigheter than spec ... That allowed me to get 8 months out of the current front bearings!

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checking

I checked that too by grabbing at 9 and 3 also 12 and 6, no play. But thanks for the input.

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The wheel bearing could be going bad ... They get lose when they go bad. I stopped torquing them to the proper amount and cranked down the axle nut tigheter than spec ... That allowed me to get 8 months out of the current front bearings!

Yikes! I never thought about that when doing mine! I better go back and torque it.

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Yikes! I never thought about that when doing mine! I better go back and torque it.

I've learned to clean the treads off on the axle shaft when replacing bearings.

one of them I torqued to the spec (can't remember off the top of my head), did about 1/8'' more turn to get the cotter pin in and called it a day.

3 months later the axle nut was lose and the wheel bearing was bad.

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post #12 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Gonna Change

Decided to go with replacing them with Spicer's . Will get at it as soon as the rain stops.

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post #13 of 13 Old 06-08-2013, 04:50 PM Thread Starter
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Done

I've heard rumor that I should get it aligned. Is that true and why?

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