[XJH-007]

Another consideration is the AUBURN ECTED Electric (Electromagnetic) That just sounds sweet.

Pro's:
*Cheaper then both ARB and OX
*No additional Compressor purchase
*Electric 12V engagement
*No Air lines or cables, just an engagement wire
*Totally Silent
*Comes with all hardware for the shade tree mechanic install.
*ENGAGE ON THE FLY (which can't be done with OX or ARB)

Con's:
*Gear setup is a bit tricky, the "coil pack" is pressed onto the carrier so the installer has to be very careful not to damage the coil pack.
*It is an electric locker...so it relies on a good switch install.

Been running mine for 3 yrs...... When I lock my D30, I will do it with a Ected as well. Some say it's not a 100% locker because it doesn't use actual steel on steel teeth for engagement, but according to the specs on the locker, the magnetic clutch "lock" requires more torque to slip then the axle shafts can handle.....that's as close to 100% as you need to be.

Plus the added Engage/Disengage on the fly! That's a HUGE bonus when you don't want to stop to lock up OR unlock......

[leftlanetruckin]

arent the ected lockers a lsd when unlocked though?
just me, but i prefer either fully locked or fully open. on ice, i prefer an open diff myself.
i also dont worry about the "silent" operation neither, my junk has too many noises to notice...hell if i could hear my lockers at least i know they are locked
after having arb's, and now the jk rubi electric lockers, i have noticed no difference except for now i dont get the cool "psshhh" noise when i unlock the front axle to turn

again, for my .02, i prefer a proven product, and arb wins that hands down.

martin

[JMC-14]

I haven't heard any problems with a properly installed ARB system, and their company is very reputable around. This is why I went with them. I haven't done the install yet, but with some basic mechanical knowledge I think it's pretty straight forward.

[XJH-007]

Originally Posted by leftlanetruckin

arent the ected lockers a lsd when unlocked though?

Yep. But it's a very tame LSD. Perfect for Snow and Ice. I was VERY hesitant on the LSD function at first but after talking to the tech's, they sold me on it....and I've never looked back. I trust the wife in all road conditions with it......which I NEVER did with the lunchbox-locker...that was a deathtrap on ice.

The LSD portion of the locker is torque sensitive, the more torque that passes by the clutches, the tighter they become. So you can get one wheel "slipage" but not a one wheel "spinout". So then you can almost control the LSD. IE- Slow crawling or chugging through lets say a snow drift that's only on one side of the vehicle will slip a bit transfering some power to the other wheel.......then if you Goose the throttle, it will tighten up the other wheel and effectively be semi-locked at this point. (if that makes any sense)

And then on the highway, since the other wheel is nearly at a "matched speed", there are no clunks, jerks, or large differences in applied torque...ie- no spinout....unless you ROMP on it. I was anti LSD until this locker.....I'm born again...and can see the light-ah!

Bottom line, it works, and works very well. The techs also guranteed me 100K on the clutch packs blah blah blah....we shall see.

[leftlanetruckin]

i am glad it is working well for you mate.
i also have the missus and kids riding around in my junk, thus am also very picky.
sounds like they have the lsd section down to an art form, a lot better than the bad old days...

martin

[floridajpr]

I have had OX cable actuated lockers, front and rear, in my heep since 2006 and I have not had one single problem with them. I for one will not bash on any other locker manufacturers because I think that most of the other lockers out there are just as good as the OX. I did not want the hassle of installing an air compressor with air lines so I went with the cable actuated OX locker. Also OX has not had any cable issues for a long time and they are made in the USA. They are also made in the great state of Florida where I live.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by XJH-007

Yep. But it's a very tame LSD. Perfect for Snow and Ice. I was VERY hesitant on the LSD function at first but after talking to the tech's, they sold me on it....and I've never looked back. I trust the wife in all road conditions with it......which I NEVER did with the lunchbox-locker...that was a deathtrap on ice.

The LSD portion of the locker is torque sensitive, the more torque that passes by the clutches, the tighter they become. So you can get one wheel "slipage" but not a one wheel "spinout". So then you can almost control the LSD. IE- Slow crawling or chugging through lets say a snow drift that's only on one side of the vehicle will slip a bit transfering some power to the other wheel.......then if you Goose the throttle, it will tighten up the other wheel and effectively be semi-locked at this point. (if that makes any sense)

And then on the highway, since the other wheel is nearly at a "matched speed", there are no clunks, jerks, or large differences in applied torque...ie- no spinout....unless you ROMP on it. I was anti LSD until this locker.....I'm born again...and can see the light-ah!

Bottom line, it works, and works very well. The techs also guranteed me 100K on the clutch packs blah blah blah....we shall see.

I like the idea of a simple electric locker. Also with the LSD you have some functionality without having to lock as often.

I don't understand why outdated compressed air lockers are still made in the year 2009. The complexity of a system like that is just stupid. A whole compressor with its motor, gearbox, etc + wiring + air hoses + air mechanisms. Seriously? What other function of our vehicles is operated by compressed air?? Might as well run a steam engine instead of a gasser "because it's proven".

An OX type cable seems to make way more sense than the air too... many automotive functions still use them, plus bicycle shifters and brakes.

[jkh]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

I like the idea of a simple electric locker. Also with the LSD you have some functionality without having to lock as often.

I don't understand why outdated compressed air lockers are still made in the year 2009. The complexity of a system like that is just stupid. A whole compressor with its motor, gearbox, etc + wiring + air hoses + air mechanisms. Seriously? What other function of our vehicles is operated by compressed air?? Might as well run a steam engine instead of a gasser "because it's proven".

An OX type cable seems to make way more sense than the air too... many automotive functions still use them, plus bicycle shifters and brakes.

Many vehicle functions are operated by vacuum, which is a similar concept to compressed air, just backwards Oh, and tires. They work on compressed air

Sure, it's a little more complex than just a cable. But you have onboard air for filling up your tires. I don't know how many times I had to replace the clutch CABLE in my Mustang over the few years I owned it....maybe 6 or so. So I don't find cables all that reliable honestly

[VanBCguy]

I don't have a personal opinion, as I'm not locked and loaded, but I would suggest talking to Idaho-Jeep about his recent build and experience with the Ox. Originally he was having troubles with the rear(?) cable, but it went away.

If you read his build thread, there isn't a nut or bolt that he used that he didn't research the he77 out of, so his opinion would be one of a user and one of a very informed DIY builder. I know he's not anti-ARB, but he could enlighten you as to what it is about Ox that he liked better and why.

It would be interesting to hear what Jerry Bransford or MrBlaine and others think too.

Either way, you're getting a wicked locker! Good luck.

[MGrobe]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

I like the idea of a simple electric locker. Also with the LSD you have some functionality without having to lock as often.

I don't understand why outdated compressed air lockers are still made in the year 2009. The complexity of a system like that is just stupid. A whole compressor with its motor, gearbox, etc + wiring + air hoses + air mechanisms. Seriously? What other function of our vehicles is operated by compressed air?? Might as well run a steam engine instead of a gasser "because it's proven".

An OX type cable seems to make way more sense than the air too... many automotive functions still use them, plus bicycle shifters and brakes.

How about brakes on a tractor trailer? Really, I could have went either way at the time of my purchase, but the lack of warranty help pretty much sewed up that decision. I enjoy my front ARB so much I often wish I got one in the rear instead my Detroit.

[lilnapsak]

Originally Posted by floridajpr

I have had OX cable actuated lockers, front and rear, in my heep since 2006 and I have not had one single problem with them. I for one will not bash on any other locker manufacturers because I think that most of the other lockers out there are just as good as the OX. I did not want the hassle of installing an air compressor with air lines so I went with the cable actuated OX locker. Also OX has not had any cable issues for a long time and they are made in the USA. They are also made in the great state of Florida where I live.

FINALLY someone with an Ox. an pictures of how you installed your switch for it?

[Joe Dillard]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

I don't understand why outdated compressed air lockers are still made in the year 2009. The complexity of a system like that is just stupid. A whole compressor with its motor, gearbox, etc + wiring + air hoses + air mechanisms. Seriously? What other function of our vehicles is operated by compressed air?? Might as well run a steam engine instead of a gasser "because it's proven".

I agree, you probably will never understand and it will continue to be beyond your comprehension, and I suspect there are plenty of reasons why.

If my son who has taken a couple automotive & electrical classes understands ARB operation, basic install mechanics etc - I would think that somebody with 1/2 a clue would be able to as well, unless they had some sort of issues.

It's not like they are rocket science.

[leftlanetruckin]

wow, i am glad that EVERY big truck manufacturer does not think that air systems are out of date....
hhmmm, brakes, suspension, fan clutch, transmission, oh yeah, and diff locks!

whatever dude, go do some homework. i can guarantee finding an air leak a LOT fast than you could chase down an electrical issue, that is unless you can hear an electrical issue?
air systems have been proven in a LOT rougher terrain and worse conditions that you obviously realize.

martin

[ChipKeckler]

Hey all,
lockers are not created equal. As far as I am concerned the most durable Selectable Lockers are OX and ARB. Both about the same price.
Ox can now be actuated 4 different ways
1. Manual/Cable 2. Electric/Cable 3. Air Actuator 4. Manual Lockout (DAL)
And it includes the heavy duty diff cover by default.
I have been with OxLocker for almost seven years I have built a couple thousand of these even though we had different owners through the years. I call them growing pains, Common for a small company,The empoyee's have hung in there tough are loyal to this product. Proudly Made In America, keeps Americans working in local machine shops not overseas how cool is that. I am committed to customer service and on call 24/7 Period....

Thank you to those who support OxLocker for your traction needs.

Chip Keckler
(OX Man)
www.ox-usa.com
727-230-7803

[lilnapsak]

Originally Posted by ChipKeckler

Hey all,
lockers are not created equal. As far as I am concerned the most durable Selectable Lockers are OX and ARB. Both about the same price.
Ox can now be actuated 4 different ways
1. Manual/Cable 2. Electric/Cable 3. Air Actuator 4. Manual Lockout (DAL)
And it includes the heavy duty diff cover by default.
I have been with OxLocker for almost seven years I have built a couple thousand of these even though we had different owners through the years. I call them growing pains, Common for a small company,The empoyee's have hung in there tough are loyal to this product. Proudly Made In America, keeps Americans working in local machine shops not overseas how cool is that. I am committed to customer service and on call 24/7 Period....

Thank you to those who support OxLocker for your traction needs.

Chip Keckler
(OX Man)
www.ox-usa.com
727-230-7803

thanks for your imput. im still curently looking for a d44 for my cherokee but havent found a good deal yet, but im 100% sure im going with the ox, could you give me more details on the manual lockout version? ive never heard of it up until now.