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Old 10-10-2008, 05:39 PM   #1
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4WD S10 AAL Bastard Pack

I have a set of 4WD S10 springs I can use to make my bastard pack. They are 4 leaf. I already have ZJ coils and RE spacers to get about a 3.5" front lift. Any idea what lift using the main S10 leaf would get me? I guess I can just experiment but I didn't know if anyone had used 4WD S10 leafs before. All the posts I find seem to be about 2WD S10 leafs. Thanks!

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Old 10-10-2008, 06:36 PM   #2
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I got 3.5" out of a four leaf pack
XJ main
S-10 Main
S-10 Second
S-10 Third
XJ small

Bending the tabs straight up on the factory retainers will do everything you need. If you want pictures I can go out and take shots for you. I also have no Axle wrap, believe me I've tried.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:17 PM   #3
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I have :

XJ main
S10 Main
S10 second leaf
XJ third leaf
XJ overload

I'm getting about 4" of lift out of mine and the ride is good. Firmer than stock, but not unbearable.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:01 AM   #4
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Does it matter what year s10? Like the older or newer ones?
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:45 PM   #5
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Not really. There are spring rate differences though.
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Old 10-12-2008, 11:31 PM   #6
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THREAD HIJACK!!!!

A couple pointers for doing a S-10 bastard pack with a 4 leaf pack.

Start off by cutting the spring eyes off. It worked good for me, it will work good for you.


After you're done grind off the main spring pin and separate the packs.


Take the S-10 leaf with the spring retainer and bend the tabs straight up. I did this and used the factory s-10 spring retainers on my XJ. I used a 5/16 bolt as a top clip. I can remove as needed.


Mock up your S-10 main


I found mine to be too long, I cut it down to the white line.


I used a long bolt to align the springs while clamping them together. I also drilled them for a 3/8 center pin. the axle doesn't need to be re-drilled. I did this twice with 3/8 hardware(went taller the second time). Its not that hard if you take your time with good bits.


The only snag. the fix was to use a 1/2-20 bolt and cut the head off. a couple of washer and I was just fine.

Before:

After:

After complete bastard pack:


I haven't had any problems with sag. The after complete bastard pack shows the 31" truxus I'm running now.
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