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post #1 of 39 Old 08-14-2010, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
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1990 XJ Lift Question

I want to know if I'm missing any parts that would be a good idea to have or any parts that are unneeded in what I'm going to link below.

Rustys Offroad: XJ Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit

I have the heavy duty lower axle mounts and the steering stabilizer selected.

Rustys Offroad: Transfer Case Drop Kit (XJ, MJ)

At least in Dodge Rams I know this is a good idea due to it's reduction in vibrations.

Rustys Offroad: Drop Pitman Arm 1.25 (XJ/TJ/YJ)

A friend said this was needed, but idk.

Rustys Offroad: Fixed Front Lower Control Arm (XJ,TJ)

Rustys Offroad: Fixed Front Upper Control Arms (XJ,TJ,ZJ)

I was told that the stock ones are weak.

Rustys Offroad: Trac-Bar - Adjustable Front (TJ,XJ,ZJ)

I was told these were needed on Dodge Rams so I figured they would be needed on Cherokees.


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Also I plan on getting all 4 of these skid plates.

Rock Ratedô Jeep XJ Cherokee Products - Skid Row Offroad

And this one here.

Rustys Offroad: Skids - XJ Front End Strengthener & Skid Plate

And these so I don't wreck the underside of my doors.

Rustys Offroad: Rocker Armor - Tube - 84-01 XJ Cherokee

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That looks good, but you'll also need extended break lines. Also, im not sure if rusty's is the best quality stuff. Try Iron Rock Offroad or Rough Country
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Read the older threads about lifting, your friend is trying to be helpful but has some bad info.

Drop pitman is not needed until you are at 6-8"

At 3" the stock control arms are OK, maybe lowers if you have the money.

Avoid any adjustable track bar that uses tie rod ends.

Engine/transmission skids aren't really needed unless you wheel on really big rocks.

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Avoid any adjustable track bar that uses tie rod ends.

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??? That's what mine is and it's easy to replace when it's worn out. Mine is from Rough Country.

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The double shear trac-bars are much stronger and will not limit flex like the factory type tierod end trac-bars. To the OP I would skip the control arms and t-case drop. What you need for 3" lift is coils/leafs, shocks, trac-bar(optional but recommended), extended rear brakeline and longer swaybar links or disconnects. You can go to autozone and buy a rear brakeline for a 95 wrangler to replace yours with. It will be 3" longer and bolt right in. The 90 model shouldn't need the t-case drop at 3" of lift. For sure skip the drop pitman arm.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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I agree on no need for the TC. I just went 4" on my 94, didn't use a drop, and no vibes. TC case drop puts unnessecary stress on the drivetrain - steer away if possible.
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Also, I'd definitely recommend Iron Rock Off Road as far as quality goes. Just did a 4" kit from them, and I'm very satisfied
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Do I need front sway bar links, rear sway bar links, or both?

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So what about an IRO 4" lift with the 3.5 rear leaf packs and double shear trac bar? If I go with that is there anything I'm missing?

IRON ROCK OFF ROAD: XJ 4" Lift Kit

IRON ROCK OFF ROAD: XJ/ZJ Adjustable Double Shear Track Bar Conversion Kit

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That will work fine for you. That way you will have the t-case drop if needed, but I wouldn't install it unless you have vibrations.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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What about a steering stabilizer? Is it needed?

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Nope, unless you just want a new one to match your new shocks. And trust me if you have any wobbles after the lift the steering stabilizer isn't the problem. The steering stabilizer is more to dampen the shock of road imperfections to cut down on the wear of steering components than it is to keep the steering from wobbling while there is worn steering parts. People get the wrong idea of the stabilizers job from it's name. I have ran my TJ for a few weeks without one to prove to a buddy that it isn't needed. I couldn't tell it wasn't there. With a new trac-bar you should be fine after the lift, just be sure to get the front-end aligned and check all your tierod ends and control arm bushings and you shouldn't have any death wobble.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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I went with their adjustable lower control arms as well with that kit - it's not absolutely necessary, just a little piece of mind.

I just installed that kit 2 weeks ago - I guarantee you'll like it. You can check out my build in my signature to see it before and after, if you want to get a good guage of how big it'll be.
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Should I go with the add a leafs or the rear leaf packs? I kinda want to do it all in one shot.

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