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Unread 04-26-2013, 12:07 AM   #1
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1.5" OME lift Quandry...

so i've talked to dirk at DPG, talked to the guys at High Country 4x4 and OME/ARB. So as you can guess by now i'm majorly confused.

1. I've been told to do only the medium / only do the Heavy Duty

2. I've been told that i'll need additional parts; That using a Hybrid kit is the best route / OME doesnt reccomend hybrid kits and in its stand alone kit is complete. also that ill need new engine mounts?!

3. also i'm planning on doing this myself with a friend who's a 20+ mechanic / only use proffesional install because you'll totally F it up.

So guys please PLEASE tell me these answers.

1. What Duty strength will work? (going to get a front and rear bumper; weight 200 lbs. http://www.nates4x4.com/ProductDetai...F%5FXJR%5F SO )

2. if i do the OME 1.5"; what else am i going to need for a complete install?

3. My friend is an accomplished mechanic and has done man lifts. is it really going to change the whole install if i use a "proffesional Mechanic"

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Unread 04-26-2013, 08:52 AM   #2
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1) the medium duty should be fine with just bumpers.
This is more personal preference, the heavy duty will obviously be a bit stiffer. If your looking for a good ride,go.medium.
I personally have the heavy duty, and think it still rides nice. The only weight i have at moment are tools i carry around and the occasional trailer, i was planning ahead.

2) Only going up 1.5" you really shouldn't need anything other thn the ome kit. But other products can be bought to compliment and make going higher easier in the future, but are not required.

3)I'm no mechanic and had zero experience before doing my lift. I was fortunate to acquire hand me down tools from my pop.
I just did a ton of research and dove right in. Glad i did, learned so much.
So being he has experience,.i wouldn't worry.
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Unread 04-26-2013, 09:27 AM   #3
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I just noticed the same header at another forum.
You trying to cover all the bases here? LOL

You need to tell us what your intended usage of the Jeep will be. Yes we know you are adding heavy bumpers BUT is this going to be a Mall crawler or a weekend warrior?
A mall crawler could get by with ZJ v8 springs Good for at least 1.5" and cheap from the wrecking yard. Get a couple of leafs from a wrecked S10 pickup, add them to your XJ pack, new u bolts and your good to go after an alignment.
Probably less than $200 and a case of beer for your buddy.
A full on recovery vehicle for search and rescue or a Zombie assault vehicle is going to need more than 1.5" and a much heavier duty lift.
Your best bet is to stop anybody you see driving a lifted Cherokee and ask them questions about their lift and why they did it.
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Unread 04-26-2013, 05:43 PM   #4
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yes i posted to CherokeeForum, NAXJA and here. i'm really close to buying/installing (want to run by june 1.) and i'm no where closer to my answer than i was when i started this search four months ago. Everyone tells me to do either a 3"-12" lift and i'm wasting my time with 1.5" or! they tell me to part it out to OEM specs which i dont want because i would like the option to run 30s or 31s.

so i'm in Vail Colorado and i'm looking to be able to do a 75mph drive to denver then do a improved 4x4 road the next day. there's alot of logging roads and forest service roads. I'm not insanely worried about cost however i dont want to plunk down $1300 down when i can get this done for $800(shipped). I want this 1.5" because its a suspension kit. if i wanted a 20' lift i'd buy Grave Digger.

so if i were to call it something i'd guess it'd be closest to a Cruiser that can 4x4. i realize it doesnt make sense however i think after i do rockers and cherry out my engine its gonna be SWEET and just what i want.

it has me really annoyed because i've found almost no one with a jeep like this outside of these forum and i can't get them to answer.
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Unread 04-26-2013, 06:43 PM   #5
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Actually now that you have told us what your looking to do we (ummm more experienced) Jeepers can help you make up your mind.
Now please do remember that opinions are like A-holes. Everyone's got one.
Only you will be able to decide what works for you.
The first thing a lot will tell you is to go big cause after you start that's where you'll want to go.
I'm a bit different. I like the LCOG school. Low Center Of Gravity. I am running 33 inch tires on a 4.5" lift and I am looking to bring it down to maybe 3.5" I'm going to a modified long arm system but that's in the future.
Right now I'm having fun where it is.
You will probably have fun too at 1.5" but if you want to run 31's you'll at least have to go to 2"
This can be done quite inexpensively using JY parts or even low cost new. Then you can buy a complete kit which will get more expensive.
Your stock steering can handle a 2" lift without a lot of expensive new parts like adjustable track bars fixed or adjustable control arms and spring packs and longer shackles.
In fact if your current rear leaf springs are in good shape a coil spacer and a longer shackle are about all you need. Plus an alignment after.
If they are too tired, don't use an AAL (add a leaf). It's a band aid. And all band aids have to come off sooner rather than later.
Do spring for the OME 2 inch medium duty spring pack. Worth every penny and will last you a long time. You can add a longer shackle later if you need more height and you won't run into having to relocate you shackle mounting point like some of us have to do with the taller leaf packs
You can safely go to 3 inch coil spacers with out steering modification. After that (3.5 -4.5") you need things like an adjustable track bar, longer lower control arms and a drop pitman arm. This starts to get expensive and in mechanically inexperienced hands can cause you a lot of grief in Death wobble and bump steer.

I know that's a lot to read but it's just some of the things you'll need to make some informed choices or get you to ask more questions.
The only stupid question is the one not asked.
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Unread 04-26-2013, 08:04 PM   #6
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yea i'm okay with spending for a better suspension i just want to dial in what is going to be what i will need to get it all rolling in say a week's time.

what i envision is a very capable interstate 70 vehicle(which i already have and a more capable off road ride (which i dont have
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Unread 04-27-2013, 04:55 AM   #7
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Experience has taught me to go with what you want/can afford. Dont start spending outside your limits because you never know when something is going to break on the Jeep and youll be spending time and money to fix it. Fortunately most things on XJ's and all Wranglers are fairly easy to fix. There are many avenues to travel, but based on your input, you seem to want to do light wheeling (heavy being crawling rocks, lower side being rougher than normal terrain, some mud). That being said....

My first XJ: 1996 Sport with a 2" lift. ZJ coils and spacers in front, shackles in the rear. I was running 30.8" Dakota Definity A/T's (which I will be buying again, and recommend for a cheaper tire) I had amazing luck with this setup on and offroad. I was going through things lifted V8 trucks were having problems with. Mind you, 2" lift and 30's arent a big deal, its how you wheel it. Im going with at least a 3.5" lift on this XJ because I want to tackle some things that require a larger tire and better angles. As stated before, you can go for a LCOG, but personally its not for me.

As far as Spring Rate. If youre going to purchase a lift, buy HD springs. First of all, they SHOULD be the same price across the board, light to heavy. Over time the spring loses some of its rating, resulting in sagging. Without getting into too much science, I will explain why. You are going to be a lot of highway driving. Note, when you accelerate, the front of any vehicle raises. Now imagine a constant variable in which the vehicle is doing this. Combined with towing and carrying a load in the back, all things result in a distressed spring rate, or sag. Granted HD springs are stiff, but once broken in, they become more reliable on the road. Its imperative to get good shocks for this reason. Spend the extra on some good shocks. Good luck
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Unread 08-31-2014, 12:47 PM   #8
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Went with a DPG offroad package. Its superb. spent more than i thought but it was well worth it!
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Unread 08-31-2014, 01:05 PM   #9
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Went with a DPG offroad package. Its superb. spent more than i thought but it was well worth it!
Did you go with the medium springs? What did you settle in at for lift height? Did you need an SYE? I need new springs and was gonna go with the dorman ones, but if I can throw a set of OME leafs in there instead without driveline vibes (only lookin for a couple inches of lift) then I'll go with those instead.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 04:24 PM   #10
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from dirk he only sends heavies, i believe. you need to take out the 3rd leaf in the pack to get it to go. Had a 4x4 shop do it and they didnt take it out was at 5.5 inches. Made them do it right and it was fine. With third leaf ALOT of driveshaft noise. Three months later and they have settled ALOT. kinda wish i had left the third leaf in and waited it out? However, i carry around 100-200lbs of tools so i'm going to get a rear bumper and have them install it/have third leaf put in. Over the rainbow i think i'm just gonna bite the bullet and go 3.5 and do SYE though i have a 242 which is difficult to find a SYE kit for. All and All? i love the OME kit and i wouldn't suggest buying one from anyone else but DPG. Dirk is a really solid jeeper and a great guy. He told me i could call him Whenever for questions. A lot better than the guys at the shop i went to. I won't say who because they're well known in the community but i'm hesitant to go back and have them do work on my rig
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