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post #1 of 12 Old 04-05-2013, 03:37 PM Thread Starter
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whats it take to tow 4 tons with XJ?

Id like to make it so I can tow 4 tons on a trailer about 2000 miles with my 89 cherokee 6 cylinder. is this even possible to do reliably and safely, assuming any reasonable modification is performed? i.e. brake upgrade, engine rebuilding, new exhaust, frame reinforcements, oil coolers and bigger radiators etc..

if its not possible, oh well its been a good jeep ill just keep it for off roading

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post #2 of 12 Old 04-05-2013, 03:39 PM
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Hook a 1-ton truck to the front of the Jeep and pull both the Jeep and the trailer.
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post #5 of 12 Old 04-06-2013, 07:39 AM
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I'd Put the jeep on an f350 diesel dually flat bed.
No way, no how, never going to happen.
Your maximum towing capacity is 5000# and it's not even remotely fun or stable even with trailer brakes and weight distribution hitch.
With the new sae standards an xj would realistically be rated closer to 3500#. Not 8000# like you're intending to tow.

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Put the jeep on an f450 diesel dually flat bed. Then again,16000# would require a fifth wheel hitch in the bed.
No way, no how, never going to happen.
Your maximum towing capacity is 5000# and it's not even remotely fun or stable even with trailer brakes and weight distribution hitch.
With the new sae standards an xj would realistically be rated closer to 3500#. Not 16000# like you're intending to tow.
4 tons is 8000lbs, not 16,000.

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4 tons is 8000lbs, not 16,000.
Been a long day already, corrected my brain fart.

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post #8 of 12 Old 04-07-2013, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
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oh well..its a shame because i really like my xj and it never fails me, this would be so useful if it could help me out with this task

at 190k i tested compression and it was 150 all 6, passes smog still in CA, can still do 80 on the freeway uphill, air conditioning blows painfully cold even in borrego desert when its 115 outside and its just sitting idling and the coolant stays steady just past the middle line during that...really great jeep..plus i bought it for less than $1000 and its a double salvage title because its been rear ended twice while parked lol so with the insurance I actually got the jeep for free..

installed4 75% tread used BFG all terrains when i got it for $400 including a spare, got a rear bumper and rear hatch to replace the accident ones for about $90 at the junkyard..put in lock rite locker for $150 so its quite capable off roading..

arent we all getting misty eyed

oh one more thing...apparently still gets 25mpg??? i swear! unless im calculating it wrong...my odometer is off because the tires are bigger but I accounted for that using gps...how can this be? 25mpg??

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post #9 of 12 Old 04-08-2013, 11:08 AM
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Hook 8k behind it for 2000 miles, that will probably take care of your being too reliable issue.

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post #10 of 12 Old 04-08-2013, 01:36 PM
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Hook 8k behind it for 2000 miles, that will probably take care of your being too reliable issue.
and the 6mpg better than stock fuel economy too.

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post #11 of 12 Old 04-16-2013, 06:44 PM
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towing something twice as heavy as what you are towing it with, not a good idea. XJ's were never known to stop the greatest factory. 8k is a LOT of weight.

best bet, tow with something rated for it. i loved my XJ and ZJ, but i could never imagine towing much more than about 3k with either of them.

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post #12 of 12 Old 06-06-2013, 06:34 PM
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I've towed 6500lbs behind 2 different XJs. Reason it was 2 different ones is very simple. Have a 8x12 trailer with solid wooden sides FULL to the brim with Rehab Trash from a property on one side of town. The Dump is 15 Miles across town. I needed the trailer to haul some stuff, so it had to be emptied(Takes a LONG time with no auto dumper on it). The Good news is that the trailer ALMOST got to the dump. It made it 13 Miles when the rear tranny seal BLEW OUT! I hobbled it to the dump, checked in and started the unloading process. At that point, the other XJ showed up (my dads) and brought the trailer home. We checked the fluids and my XJ went direct tot he shop to get it fixed.

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