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post #1 of 38 Old 07-30-2015, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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What size trailer and gvrw for hauling my jkur

Hello all. I'm looking to buy a flatbed car hauler to tow my jk unlimited long distances. The trailer will mainly be used to tow my yj within the Phoenix area but on occasion I will tow my jkur to places like moab and such. It's easier driving in my pickup vs driving the Jeep.

With that said, what size trailer should I get to haul the jkur? Biggest thing is gvrw and length? Most trailers I'm finding within my budget are 16ft or 18ft and 82-84" wide, dual 3500lb axles with 7000lb gvwr on the trailer. Will this be sufficient to tow my jk unlimited? It's a Rubicon on stock d44 axles and 35" tires, steel front and rear bumpers and steel rock sliders and a 2.5" trailer lift. It's no monster by any means and eventually I will toss some tons on it but for now and the next 5yrs it will remain as is. I may bump up to 37" tires on my next set but for now staying with 35s.

So will a trailer of these specs work? I'm not sure the total weight of my jk. My other option is to hold out and try to find a 16-18ft trailer with dual 5000lb axles and a 10,000 gvwr weight load. Those are way out of my price range new and when used pops up they sell within a few hours here in AZ. Ideally I would like that but wonder if the 3500lb and 7000 gvwr trailer will get the job done?

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post #2 of 38 Old 07-30-2015, 01:05 AM
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post #3 of 38 Old 07-30-2015, 10:45 AM
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Most of those 7000 GVWR car haulers weigh about 2000lbs or so, leaving you 5000 lbs for a vehicle, other equipment, spares, tools, etc. Your JKUR, loaded down, could probably be close to 5000 lbs. Personally, I'd like more margin when towing.
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Most of those 7000 GVWR car haulers weigh about 2000lbs or so, leaving you 5000 lbs for a vehicle, other equipment, spares, tools, etc. Your JKUR, loaded down, could probably be close to 5000 lbs. Personally, I'd like more margin when towing.
It will be cutting it close for sure. Anyone else haul their JK Unlimited on a 16 or 18ft trailer with 7,000gvwr capacity?

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Most of those 7000 GVWR car haulers weigh about 2000lbs or so, leaving you 5000 lbs for a vehicle, other equipment, spares, tools, etc. Your JKUR, loaded down, could probably be close to 5000 lbs. Personally, I'd like more margin when towing.
That is exactly the reason I went with a 10,000 lb trailer (two 5K axles).

And it has the added benefit of being able to haul anything else that comes up unexpectedly... Like my 7,000 lb Suburban...


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It will be cutting it close for sure. Anyone else haul their JK Unlimited on a 16 or 18ft trailer with 7,000gvwr capacity?
I sell these types of trailers exclusively. This is my personal jeep on one, it works fine at least on stock-ish jeeps, not sure how much extra crap you've got bolted on. The final weight at least with dry wood is about 1,700 pounds. Make sure you get good tires, like some good steel belted radials, I would say that's usually the biggest weak link with most things that are on the market. No reason why a 5" channel frame, 8000 pound coupler, and radial equipped trailer can't haul a typical JK. What's questionable is when you get into military humvees, that's a different story.

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The cost difference for a 3500 pound axle and a 5200 pound axle might be all of $100 each. So buy your trailer from someone who is building it locally not brokering it and just tell them.

Also 16' seems too short. You need more than that to be able to balance your load and get good tie down angles. I'd go with 18' at least.

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I've hauled my TJ on 16' and 18' trailers. 16' is ok for a TJ and might work with a JKU, but you'll be happier with an 18'. FWIW...I just ordered a 18' 10k Gatormade. It was only $600 more than a 7k. The price difference in a 16' and 18' was only $200. Keep in mind the GVWR includes the weight of the trailer which is typically around 2k lbs. So a 7k trailer can really only haul a 5k lb Jeep.

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JKu is about 4400lbs. 2d about 3900.

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Just remember a 16' trailer also includes the tounge. My 20' trailer only has a 16' deck.
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Just remember a 16' trailer also includes the tounge. My 20' trailer only has a 16' deck.
Not necessarily. The 18' Gatormade I bought has an 18' deck and a 4' tongue.

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Just remember a 16' trailer also includes the tounge. My 20' trailer only has a 16' deck.
They're not supposed to be like that. Any reputable manufacturer will title them based on actual deck length, including the dovetail. Typically an 18' trailer with a 2' dovetail and 3.5' tongue will be 21.5' total with 16' worth of flat deck and 2' slanted. That's how its supposed to be at least.
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The cost difference for a 3500 pound axle and a 5200 pound axle might be all of $100 each.
Kinda sorta not really. The problem is that its not just the axles. If you want a 10,000 pound trailer you're looking at larger tires, a larger jump in price per tire if you go with radials, 6 hole rims instead of 5 hole, the brakes alone are about twice what a 7K trailer is, ideally you'd jump to a 6" channel frame, no way I'd send a 10K trailer out with standard car ramps so you're looking at a 3" channel upgrade, bump up the coupler, and the jack... suddenly you're looking at a $900 jump in wholesale cost alone just with one brake axle.
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Kinda sorta not really. The problem is that its not just the axles. If you want a 10,000 pound trailer you're looking at larger tires, a larger jump in price per tire if you go with radials, 6 hole rims instead of 5 hole, the brakes alone are about twice what a 7K trailer is, ideally you'd jump to a 6" channel frame, no way I'd send a 10K trailer out with standard car ramps so you're looking at a 3" channel upgrade, bump up the coupler, and the jack... suddenly you're looking at a $900 jump in wholesale cost alone just with one brake axle.
You must never have shopped for a new trailer. A 7000 pound trailer and a 10,000 pound trailer in the same line and same length will have identical wheels and brakes. Some good ones will have a slight upgrade in channel. And, the difference will be retail $500 not wholesale (whatever that means) $900.

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Not true for Gatormade because I looked closely at both. The 10k had bigger tires and brakes. I don't remember if the wheels were bigger, but the 7k has a 5 lug wheel and the 10k has 6 lug. As I said above, apples to apples, the 10k was only $600 more than the 7k. Both were 18', had brakes on both axles, and ramps. I don't remember if the ramps were different.

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