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Unread 10-25-2012, 12:25 PM   #406
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The TJ and CJ manuals explicitly say not to tow them on a dolly, and the general concensus is that doing so would damage the transfer case, even in neutral.

Does the XJ manual specify otherwise? Have you had any trouble with this setup?
I don't have a manual for the XJ so I don't know what it states. I spent alotta time on JF and the www making sure it was a doable option for transporting the XJ and found lots of mixed/misinformation. I came to the conclusion that the NP231 on a 2001 XJ has true neutral, disengageing the front and rear drive lines both from the drive train as well as each other, therefore can be dollied. I don't pull my rear shaft - tcase in N, tranny in P, parking brake off, key out of ignition to lock steering. I've had zero issues.

The reason I say I don't think it's ideal is obvious wear on the Jeep's tires, and really any other moving part for that matter. Backing up is not an option without mad skills; God forbid I break something on the XJ and the dolly may be rendered useless; and the XJ sometimes wants to sway in this set-up especially on highway in turns with any cresting or bottoming of hills - nothing severe but still somewhat nerve rattling. I just like the idea of a more stable, trailered set-up. The question for me at this point is how will the 4.7 WK like it.

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Unread 10-25-2012, 01:28 PM   #407
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I don't have a manual for the XJ so I don't know what it states. I spent alotta time on JF and the www making sure it was a doable option for transporting the XJ and found lots of mixed/misinformation. I came to the conclusion that the NP231 on a 2001 XJ has true neutral, disengageing the front and rear drive lines both from the drive train as well as each other, therefore can be dollied. I don't pull my rear shaft - tcase in N, tranny in P, parking brake off, key out of ignition to lock steering. I've had zero issues.

The reason I say I don't think it's ideal is obvious wear on the Jeep's tires, and really any other moving part for that matter. Backing up is not an option without mad skills; God forbid I break something on the XJ and the dolly may be rendered useless; and the XJ sometimes wants to sway in this set-up especially on highway in turns with any cresting or bottoming of hills - nothing severe but still somewhat nerve rattling. I just like the idea of a more stable, trailered set-up. The question for me at this point is how will the 4.7 WK like it.
Just FYI - my LJ has the NV231, which is the same as your NP231. And the manual says not to dolly-tow the NV231.
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Unread 10-25-2012, 02:31 PM   #408
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Just FYI - my LJ has the NV231, which is the same as your NP231. And the manual says not to dolly-tow the NV231.
This is exactly the "mixed" information I was refering to. Like I said - I've had no issues. Does your manual say why it isn't to be done? I know with XJ's there was some years that N on the tcase actually locked f/r together in neutral. My f/r are independent when tcase is in N.
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Unread 10-25-2012, 03:36 PM   #409
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Unread 10-25-2012, 05:54 PM   #410
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I do like having the toys inside, though I can't carry two the way you can.

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Unread 10-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #411
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Though... flat towing does have it's place as well...

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Unread 10-26-2012, 11:21 AM   #412
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I'd love to have a big toy hauler, but then I still need to have a bumper pull (or some smaller trailer) for day trips and such. Same with the RV. I nice class C would be great, but I'd still have to keep the pickup unless I want to haul to local(ish) parks with the RV for the day.

The only reason I ended up with the gooseneck was I found it for a great price. Only about $1000 more than I was expecting to spend on a 10k bumper pull and I can haul 2 to the mountains.
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I'd love to have a big toy hauler, but then I still need to have a bumper pull (or some smaller trailer) for day trips and such. Same with the RV. I nice class C would be great, but I'd still have to keep the pickup unless I want to haul to local(ish) parks with the RV for the day.

The only reason I ended up with the gooseneck was I found it for a great price. Only about $1000 more than I was expecting to spend on a 10k bumper pull and I can haul 2 to the mountains.
That's very cool. There are so many good options available, it's hard to choose just one.
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Unread 10-30-2012, 10:49 AM   #414
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Unread 02-26-2013, 08:57 PM   #416
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last years set up in the pic. over the winter the truck got a fully built transmission and a fleece cheetah turbo. i plan on taking 2 jeeps on a gooseneck regularly this year.

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Unread 03-04-2013, 01:30 PM   #418
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Future--Shopping for a '12 or'13 Thor (Brand) 28Z w/ 5K tow capacity and a '13 JK to flat tow (~3800 lbs)

As an added comment, I notice that while there are some 1/2 ton trucks used to haul various Jeeps (notably Wranglers), most are 3/4 ton and up. The reason for this is that a decent trailer to put even a Wrangler on weighs 2000 lbs or more, making a total load of near or more than 6000 lbs. I would not have towed that with the Expedition noted above, and this is why I would flat tow one with the RV we are looking at. I won't get into the dolly tow discussion since I've never done it.
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