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Unread 12-11-2011, 02:30 AM   #346
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Every now and then I like to put up my Volvo FE just to remind guys looking for a dedicated tow rig that for a lot less $$ than a diesel pickup one can have a real truck capable of towing two rigs without a trailer. This is a 33,000 GVWR truck registered at 25,500 so no need for a CDL, no stops at weigh stations, and yet with two Jeeps on the bed it feels like an empty truck which really it is. Caterpillar 3116, Allison 6 speed, console controlled Eaton air bag in the rear, full air brakes, 9000 winch, etc. In a pinch one could put a medium sized front loader up there or large skid steer.

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Unread 12-19-2011, 10:38 AM   #347
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So am I the only one who sits back and looks through the pics and see's TOWING disasters waiting to happen. Man am I happy not to be behind some of these people... towing with a liberty? Towing with light duty trucks.... Yes I dont doubt the vehicles move whatever your towing.... but I will tell you this, here in the states, go ahead and be involved in a accident, even if not at fault, 50% chance of getting a ticket, and if you are at fault, 90% chance of being on the losing end of a 6 figure lawsuit, so people please remember this when towing with these vehicles that your load is over the factory specs. I saw a 2000 F150 towing a JKU Rubi and a yota buggy last time at the local park... just dumb.!!
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Unread 12-19-2011, 06:51 PM   #348
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^^ Man I miss my F-250. Towed anything. Mine was no where near that nice. I wouldn't mind having another. Is that a gasser?
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Unread 12-19-2011, 07:16 PM   #349
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So am I the only one who sits back and looks through the pics and see's TOWING disasters waiting to happen. Man am I happy not to be behind some of these people... towing with a liberty? Towing with light duty trucks.... Yes I dont doubt the vehicles move whatever your towing.... but I will tell you this, here in the states, go ahead and be involved in a accident, even if not at fault, 50% chance of getting a ticket, and if you are at fault, 90% chance of being on the losing end of a 6 figure lawsuit, so people please remember this when towing with these vehicles that your load is over the factory specs. I saw a 2000 F150 towing a JKU Rubi and a yota buggy last time at the local park... just dumb.!!
Not everyone needs a 3/4 or 1 ton truck or bigger to tow their jeep.. Heck back in the day my dad used to tow his racecar with a station wagon.

I personally plan on towing with my 97 k1500 5.7, and i know it will be more than safe and okay.
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Unread 12-19-2011, 09:24 PM   #350
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Not everyone needs a 3/4 or 1 ton truck or bigger to tow their jeep.. Heck back in the day my dad used to tow his racecar with a station wagon.

I personally plan on towing with my 97 k1500 5.7, and i know it will be more than safe and okay.
Clearly there are many 1500 rigs that are adequate to tow a Jeep. Each tow rig is as unique as each Jeep, and I don't think there is a blanket statement that you should or shouldn't tow a Jeep with 1500 or 1/2-ton truck. Each of us should consider the tow vehicle, the trailer (or tow-bar setup), and the hitch they're going to use. Each individual component can be the limiting factor on an otherwise capable rig.

I would say you're less likely to find a 1500 truck with the weight ratings high enough to tow a Jeep and a Yota on a trailer, as 95wrangler4life said in his prior post. That's a lot of weight, and would likely put a 1500 truck over it's GVWR, and probably it's hitch rating.

Another example is towing on a trailer vs. flat-towing. I tow my LJ with a towbar, and I wouldn't consider towing it with a 1500, even though it would be within the ratings, because the towbar has no tongue-weight. Without tongue weight, the Jeep can really push around the rear of the tow vehicle. I tow it with my 2500 Suburban and my 3500 dually, and they handle it well enough, but the 1500 we used to have just didn't have the weight or brakes to flat-tow the Jeep comfortably. But if I put my Jeep on a trailer, (properly weighted, etc...) then I'd have no problem towing it with that same 1500 (with the proper hitch).


Nowadays, I flat tow my Jeep with the RV, and you don't even notice it back there:
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Unread 12-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #351
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That last picture is sick
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Unread 12-19-2011, 10:58 PM   #352
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That last picture is sick
Thanks. That one is at the top of Red Mountain Pass, in between Ouray, CO and Silverton, CO:


If you like that one, check out this one from Capitol Reef, Utah:
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Unread 12-20-2011, 08:50 AM   #353
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Not everyone needs a 3/4 or 1 ton truck or bigger to tow their jeep.. Heck back in the day my dad used to tow his racecar with a station wagon.

I personally plan on towing with my 97 k1500 5.7, and i know it will be more than safe and okay.
as long as your within the vehicle's GVWR then its great, but when your over... your begging for trouble... i have seen many people tow things with F150, 1500s that i wouldnt tow with my 3/4 ton, just because you can doesn't mean you should. And as I stated if your in a wreck and remotely have any fault they I know PSP or most local PD in PA will take you to get weighed
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Unread 12-20-2011, 08:52 AM   #354
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^^ Man I miss my F-250. Towed anything. Mine was no where near that nice. I wouldn't mind having another. Is that a gasser?
no sir. 7.3 Powerstroke... for sale too!
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Unread 12-20-2011, 09:36 AM   #355
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Not everyone needs a 3/4 or 1 ton truck or bigger to tow their jeep.. Heck back in the day my dad used to tow his racecar with a station wagon.

I personally plan on towing with my 97 k1500 5.7, and i know it will be more than safe and okay.
There are crybabies all over this forum who will tell you that you might have a problem with a 5.7L K1500 towing a single XJ on a reasonable trailer. Ignore them. They have little card files at home to keep records on when they last changed their furnace filters. There are people like that everywhere and for some reason, this forum is like a magnet for them.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 10:12 AM   #356
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no sir. 7.3 Powerstroke... for sale too!
Gah. Even better. I had a 460. Man it had tons of power, but 10 MPG unloaded. Only slightly less when towing.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 11:33 AM   #357
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There are crybabies all over this forum who will tell you that you might have a problem with a 5.7L K1500 towing a single XJ on a reasonable trailer. Ignore them. They have little card files at home to keep records on when they last changed their furnace filters. There are people like that everywhere and for some reason, this forum is like a magnet for them.
no cry babies- did my post say anything about 1500's or F150's? Yes I said a F150 with a 2 car bumper pull trailer weighing in at around 4-5K empty plus a 4 door JK and yota buggy was over weight. I know a K1500 is rated to 7500lbs. I did say towing with the Liberty, seen a ranger before and those type vehicles is stupid.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 11:34 AM   #358
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Gah. Even better. I had a 460. Man it had tons of power, but 10 MPG unloaded. Only slightly less when towing.
On 33's i was getting 18-19mpg empty and 15 towing, now on 35's I get 15-16mpg and 12 towing
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Unread 12-20-2011, 01:08 PM   #359
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On 33's i was getting 18-19mpg empty and 15 towing, now on 35's I get 15-16mpg and 12 towing
Sure, rub it in.
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