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Unread 01-13-2015, 03:20 PM   #1
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I am asking you guys basically because I trust all of you. I have an '87 4 cylinder. I just sold my old pick up truck and am buying a new vehicle. This will be my family car as well as double as an occasional towing vehicle for my 4 trips a year. The wife wants and SUV. What size engine, horsepower etc do you guys think will need to tow my YJ? She is leaning towards a jeep grand Cherokee. I am guessing I would need a vehicle with at least 5000 lbs towing capacity

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Unread 01-13-2015, 03:32 PM   #2
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get something on a truck frame. suburban, Expedition, etc. its not necessarily the power to worry about; its all the other stuff. something on a half ton frame will do good IMO
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Unread 01-13-2015, 03:34 PM   #3
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Grands can tow just over 6000 or so I think. Are you talking flat tow or with the Jeep on a trailer? I use a '01 Durango with 5.9, tows 7300 lbs, which is fine for my 6000 lbs of YJ and trailer.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 03:43 PM   #4
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I am thinking trailer. I heard dolly or flat towing is no good for the YJ. I could be wrong though(I've been before). I am not sure how safe flat towing is going up or down decent size hills?
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Unread 01-13-2015, 04:16 PM   #5
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Your guess of needing 5000 capacity is wrong if doing a YJ on trailer. Typical YJ is 3500-4000 lbs, and a typical trailer is over 1500. Then the recommendations are to only pull 75% or so of the tow rating.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 04:22 PM   #6
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Jeep YJ is designed to be flat towed. In 5th gear or park, transfer case in neutral.

Even tells you how to do it in the owner's manual. Search there are lots of threads. No need to unhook anything if your front end is stock, check if you've got a locker or bypassed the CAD or something.

It only weights 3400 lbs flat towed with no tongue weight. I tow mine with a 6 cyl 4.3 liter Astro Van.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 05:01 PM   #7
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Everything I was reading said between 2500 and 3500 lbs. so let say 4000lbs plus 1500 for the trailer. So I need something that can tow about 7200. Hmm.

I didn't know I can flat tow a jeep. How safe is it?
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Unread 01-13-2015, 05:09 PM   #8
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I flat tow my YJ all over the country. Tow vehicles range from a K1500 4x4 to a 1500 Suburban 4WD to a Deuce and a Half.

The YJ is super easy to flat tow. No need for a trailer. As long as your towing vehicle has decent brakes any vehicle 4500 lbs unladen weight (so the Jeep does not push you around) or more will do just fine.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 06:29 PM   #9
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I flat tow my Jeep all over creation. My Jeep weighs @ 3300lbs and behind my 1 ton F350 superduty diesel, I literally can't tell it's there.
it either needs all 4 on the ground, or all 4 on a trailer. A dolly will cause damage.
Trans in park or 1st gear (5th is wrong) transfer case in neutral, key in off but unlocked steering position.

I also wired an extra set of 1157 sockets into the stock taillights, yes, there is room in there, and installed a flat trailer plug on the jeep grille.
Hook up towbar and safety chains, plug in lights, trans in park, tranfer case in neutral, key unlock steering and I'm gone!

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Unread 01-13-2015, 06:37 PM   #10
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Personally I would use a trailer with brakes and a half ton (or better) truck/Suv. But I also tow mine a lot in winter.

I just bought a crew cab Chevy for my wife, with the 3.08 gear they tow 7200lbs, and with the 3.42 gear it is 9500. I spec'ed it with the 3.42 and it tows my setup great! I liked the bed for tools and such, and it has a cover for other storage. The crew gives plenty of room for the little guy and dogs. When we have another kid I'll get a topper.

Typically it is getting better than 20mpg highway and 17 or so city. I got 20 pulling our loaded adventure trailer across the UP (modified M416)

I typically tow my CJ, but I don't expect much different from my YJ if i can fit it in the trailer.

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Unread 01-13-2015, 07:10 PM   #11
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2010+ 4Runner can tow up to 5,000 lbs
2003-2009 4Runner with the V8 can tow up to 7200 I think.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 07:22 PM   #12
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2010+ 4Runner can tow up to 5,000 lbs
2003-2009 4Runner with the V8 can tow up to 7200 I think.
The F-350 can tow up to 21,600 and hold 7100 lbs in the bed.

An F-350 diesel will tow the jeep fine.

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Unread 01-13-2015, 07:36 PM   #13
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Personally I would use a trailer with brakes and a half ton (or better) truck/Suv. But I also tow mine a lot in winter.

I just bought a crew cab Chevy for my wife, with the 3.08 gear they tow 7200lbs, and with the 3.42 gear it is 9500. I spec'ed it with the 3.42 and it tows my setup great! I liked the bed for tools and such, and it has a cover for other storage. The crew gives plenty of room for the little guy and dogs. When we have another kid I'll get a topper.

Typically it is getting better than 20mpg highway and 17 or so city. I got 20 pulling our loaded adventure trailer across the UP (modified M416)

I typically tow my CJ, but I don't expect much different from my YJ if i can fit it in the trailer.
What motor you got in that crew? My last truck was a 6.0 4.10 gears and I would only get 10 on a good day towing. Now I got a new one with the 4.3 v6, pretty peppy for a v6 and will tow anything but gets ****tier mileage than my 6.0 towing. My wife's f150 with the 5.4 gets 10 towing anything 3,000-7,000 any speed. I prefer the ferd its comfy and gets good mileage when its not towing which is a pretty rare occasion lol plan to flat tow the jeep to moab this summer so we shall see.
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Unread 01-13-2015, 08:33 PM   #14
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What motor you got in that crew? My last truck was a 6.0 4.10 gears and I would only get 10 on a good day towing. Now I got a new one with the 4.3 v6, pretty peppy for a v6 and will tow anything but gets ****tier mileage than my 6.0 towing. My wife's f150 with the 5.4 gets 10 towing anything 3,000-7,000 any speed. I prefer the ferd its comfy and gets good mileage when its not towing which is a pretty rare occasion lol plan to flat tow the jeep to moab this summer so we shall see.
We got the 5.3. I get 9-12 pulling the big trailer, full or empty doesn't matter. I got 11 pulling it with a 1976 Olds Delta 88 inside - heavier than my YJ. (It's flat land here though too)
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Unread 01-13-2015, 09:17 PM   #15
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OP, those big diesel pickups above are way overkill for what you want to do. You can probably flat tow fine with a 5,000 rating, but it's easy to find a 6000 rating. I know too that any pickup with a 2nd seat row won't fit in my garage, which to me is a deal breaker.
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