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post #1 of 13 Old 07-01-2009, 11:09 PM Thread Starter
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Towing Jeep with a minivan

Last year we went to Crested Butte Colorado and the whole time I was wishing I had my TJ. I have a 2008 Chrysler Town and Country with the 4.0 litre engine and 6 speed auto trans. I want to tow the Jeep there next month. I have searched and found out that it has a 1600 lb. tongue weight cap. A friend has a 16 ft. trailer with double axels and brakes that I could use.
My questions are:
Can I tow the Jeep with this minivan without screwing something up?
Do the brakes work off of the pig tail plug?
How do you know what the tongue weight on the loaded trailer is?
I have read that it's better to tow on a trailer, but would it be better to flat tow with this minivan?

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post #2 of 13 Old 07-02-2009, 12:54 AM
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I wouldnt do it. I dont think it would have the towing capacity you need (at least about 5000lbs with a light trailer). The brakes wouldnt work on the standard 4 way pigtail, you would have to add a brake controller etc.

Is the whole family going? I think I would have the wife drive the minivan and you drive the jeep before attempting to tow with the minivan.

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simply put... no.
could you physically hook the two together... yes.
would it damage the mini van in more way than one. yes.
could you stop it, maybe... but probably not. could you safely stop it 'quick'...big no.
as usmc stated youd have to add a break controller but the rv dealership will tell you not to tow it.
will it crush the rear springs.. you bet.
the minivan doesnt have a real frame under it, pretty sure its still a unibody=stamped steel chassis=not good for towing anything more than a pair of jet skis.
id borrow or rent a full size truck/SUV if you wanted to get everybody and everything out there safely.

tongue weight of the trailer, need a trailer 'tongue weight' scale which sits in the coupler.
hook the trailer to a suitable vehicle.
load the jeep on the trailer
get suitable floor jack, jack up trailer with the jack near the tongue
move vehicle out of the way and set tongue scale under trailer coupler
lower jack so all tongue weight is on the scale.
put eyes back in when you see the actual weight!! and remember tongue weight will change with the hitch height of the tow vehicle and where the jeep is positioned on the trailer.

OR just load it and take it to your local RV/trailer dealer

could you flat tow it... again sure. should you, no. wouldnt recommend it. they will fight each other and the mini van doesnt have the power or brakes to win. kinda like the trailer issue.

if you flat tow and break the jeep by determination or misfortune, you have created a major problem in regards to getting the busted rig back home and you now have more issues to deal with away from home.

ive work in the trailer industry and my best freind is the service manager of a national rv dealership here. hes been dealing with all aspects of trailering for almost 20 years now... wow were getting older.. oh well.

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No, mini vans dont tow. You need a full size truck or suv for that.

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I wouldn't trailer it, but flat towing is an option. One of my parent friends flat towed their CJ-7 three hours up north, they said it did surprisingly well. I was an '06 I think, Chrysler minivan.

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I wouldn't trailer it, but flat towing is an option. One of my parent friends flat towed their CJ-7 three hours up north, they said it did surprisingly well. I was an '06 I think, Chrysler minivan.
Still wouldn't. I've towed a YJ behind a XJ and the XJ had 4.56 gears and 31's. That jeep had a hard time on anything besides flat ground. XJ's are rated at 5000 pounds. Way more than a mini van....

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I wouldn't trailer it, but flat towing is an option. One of my parent friends flat towed their CJ-7 three hours up north, they said it did surprisingly well. I was an '06 I think, Chrysler minivan.
Nah, I think giant panda has it. The minivan may be able to pull it, but it just doesnt have the weight to control the jeep should the need for an emergency stop arise. And if he breaks it on the trail, theres no way to get it home without a crazy tow bill.

Even besides all that, it's nowhere near worth the risk. Especially since his family will be with him, no matter how good the trails are. Find an alternate tow vehicle.

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Ok just to drive the point home.

I looked it up the van says between 1000-3500 pounds towing.

I can tell you now that the jeep is going to weigh right at 3000 some pounds if not more. Add your family and their stuff and you'll be over 400 pounds because cargo and people take off from the tow rating.

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I'm not sure you could get the above agreement on whether there are 16 ounces in a pound. When this many people say no, I think you have got to listen. I've never had the (pleasure?) of owning a mini van, and hope I never do. But if it only has towing capacity of 3800lb, you are gonna be pretty miserable with your family all loaded up and the Jeep on the trailer.

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Just remember, your 3800lb. tow rating is with half a tank of gas and driver only. EVERYTHING else takes away from from that. 3000lb. jeep plus trailer (5 or 600lbs for a light one), plus family, plus camping gear, etc... You are going to be way over your 3800lb max.

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[QUOTE=cuder;7511890] I have searched and found out that it has a 1600 lb. tongue weight cap. [QUOTE]

i can assure you thats not anywhere near what it is,Most 3/4 ton pickups barely have that much rating.

just drive the jeep

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post #12 of 13 Old 07-02-2009, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks alot for the replies. I was really wanting to get it to Colorado, but safely with the family. Too much in gas to take both!!!! I guess I will just rent one for a day while we are there. I can't hardly wait it's about 102 deg. for the high here now. And it's lower to mid 70 deg. for the high there.
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Pull the van with the Jeep!!

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