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Unread 07-22-2013, 01:32 PM   #31
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Unread 07-22-2013, 05:01 PM   #32
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I hate to be the one to say it, but this project would be a whole lot better if it had not started with a POS International S1600, 7.3 manual. I wouldn't want to drive that rig across town much less across the county. This is a good lesson. A few bucks saved up front and you are stuck with something that can't be changed. Think what a great rig this would be if you had started with a Freightliner (or equivalent) box with a Caterpillar motor and an Allison automatic or 6 speed mannual, cruise and a/c, etc. Maybe with full air brakes too. It might have run you another $3000 all other things being equal.

I admire what you did with it. You are a creative and industrious builder. Kudos! Kudos!

But, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And that dead U-Haul is a sow's ear. Sorry, someone had to say it.
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Unread 07-22-2013, 08:29 PM   #33
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I hate to be the one to say it, but this project would be a whole lot better if it had not started with a POS International S1600, 7.3 manual. I wouldn't want to drive that rig across town much less across the county. This is a good lesson. A few bucks saved up front and you are stuck with something that can't be changed. Think what a great rig this would be if you had started with a Freightliner (or equivalent) box with a Caterpillar motor and an Allison automatic or 6 speed mannual, cruise and a/c, etc. Maybe with full air brakes too. It might have run you another $3000 all other things being equal.

I admire what you did with it. You are a creative and industrious builder. Kudos! Kudos!

But, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And that dead U-Haul is a sow's ear. Sorry, someone had to say it.
LMAO WOW ! ! What a crappy thing to post! Good thing you don't have to drive it, and being that you don't have to drive it, you don't have to say it.

I like it, and the point sometimes is taking something others may not see as much value in and making it amazing, he's well on the way.

LOL, all the "kudos", what a guy.
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Unread 07-23-2013, 05:06 AM   #34
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LMAO WOW ! ! What a crappy thing to post! Good thing you don't have to drive it, and being that you don't have to drive it, you don't have to say it.

I like it, and the point sometimes is taking something others may not see as much value in and making it amazing, he's well on the way.

LOL, all the "kudos", what a guy.
Well, we post here not only to have people tell us how wonderful we are and how great our project turned out but also to get ideas and give ideas. Its really good information for guys to know that they don't have to start with a POS to make a toter. I am sure the OP had his reasons, but I've driven that U-Haul configuration and its best moment is standing still. The non-turbo IH 7.3 is a lumbering boat anchor with a whole set of its own problems. Even my pre-90's Ford pickup that had that same IH motor and 1/3rd the weight would not get out of its own way. Does it have a/c cruise, and air brakes? These 250K plus decommissioned box trucks carry very modest price tags, even when well equipped. Look for yourself.

So, sorry if I offend anyone with this information, but, hopefully, others following the excellent work by the OP will not use the same starting point.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 09:17 AM   #35
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I hate to be the one to say it, but this project would be a whole lot better if it had not started with a POS International S1600, 7.3 manual. I wouldn't want to drive that rig across town much less across the county. This is a good lesson. A few bucks saved up front and you are stuck with something that can't be changed. Think what a great rig this would be if you had started with a Freightliner (or equivalent) box with a Caterpillar motor and an Allison automatic or 6 speed mannual, cruise and a/c, etc. Maybe with full air brakes too. It might have run you another $3000 all other things being equal.

I admire what you did with it. You are a creative and industrious builder. Kudos! Kudos!

But, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And that dead U-Haul is a sow's ear. Sorry, someone had to say it.
We are all entitled to our own opinions... and like ^ss holes no one ever thinks their stinks...

The reason I went with the international... nice low deck height, the 7.3 had been replaced less than 25K miles before Uhaul took it out of service, and it does have AC... as for similar Cat or Cummings straight truck... anything close was more than $10K

So... after running her for a couple of weekend trips... I could not be happier... cruises fine at highway speeds and plenty of room for what I am using it for...
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Unread 09-04-2013, 09:20 AM   #36
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Here is the updated work...

Galley is in...



back up camera and rear floods...



and here is what we called home over the long weekend...



Lazy Springs park...

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Unread 09-04-2013, 09:28 AM   #37
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installed diamond plate treads to aid in getting in and out...



and AC over the entry from the garage...



Perhaps thsoe who are jumping in late in the build did not understand the basic idea... I do not want to sleep in a tent on the ground, I want AC and basic living... I am not running cross country... just banging around the state... otherwise I would have buoght a Class A diesel pusher... (which would get trashed at the first Mudfest) I wanted to be able to romp on my ride without having to beg for trailer space... if / when I broke something...
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Unread 09-04-2013, 09:29 AM   #38
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Well, we post here not only to have people tell us how wonderful we are and how great our project turned out but also to get ideas and give ideas. Its really good information for guys to know that they don't have to start with a POS to make a toter. I am sure the OP had his reasons, but I've driven that U-Haul configuration and its best moment is standing still. The non-turbo IH 7.3 is a lumbering boat anchor with a whole set of its own problems. Even my pre-90's Ford pickup that had that same IH motor and 1/3rd the weight would not get out of its own way. Does it have a/c cruise, and air brakes? These 250K plus decommissioned box trucks carry very modest price tags, even when well equipped. Look for yourself.

So, sorry if I offend anyone with this information, but, hopefully, others following the excellent work by the OP will not use the same starting point.
and you are driving an XJ... ?
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Unread 09-04-2013, 11:22 AM   #39
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and you are driving an XJ... ?
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.

I was hoping that some other guys would have a look at the other choices for a starting point other than that POS boat anchor you chose. I have driven that International several times and have owned the 7.3 non turbo diesel and you are just BS'ing to try to pretty face on that rig. Its rolling junk. If you like it, then you can't care a bit about your trip to the campgrounds. Put it on cement blocks and it will be perfect.

You did a nice job with the interior decorating part of the job, but, you need to just admit that it would be a whole different experience to have all that decor on a decent truck.
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I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.

I was hoping that some other guys would have a look at the other choices for a starting point other than that POS boat anchor you chose. I have driven that International several times and have owned the 7.3 non turbo diesel and you are just BS'ing to try to pretty face on that rig. Its rolling junk. If you like it, then you can't care a bit about your trip to the campgrounds. Put it on cement blocks and it will be perfect.

You did a nice job with the interior decorating part of the job, but, you need to just admit that it would be a whole different experience to have all that decor on a decent truck.
You sir are an *******. He likes the truck. GTFO of the thread and take your opinions with you.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 11:37 AM   #41
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You sir are an *******. He likes the truck. GTFO of the thread and take your opinions with you.
Thank you.., he just does not get it!

I have driven tons of highway rigs... Class 8 ... And many other straight trucks... I really do not feel it handles poorly... Good tires,brakes and suspension...lost the bench seat added air rides up front... Again it works for me! I am also not towing a huge trailer or loading it down so if you want to get 10-12 MPG and have a simple straight forward diesel truck... if you check them out thoroughly... a retired rental may not be a bad choice...
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I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.

I was hoping that some other guys would have a look at the other choices for a starting point other than that POS boat anchor you chose. I have driven that International several times and have owned the 7.3 non turbo diesel and you are just BS'ing to try to pretty face on that rig. Its rolling junk. If you like it, then you can't care a bit about your trip to the campgrounds. Put it on cement blocks and it will be perfect.

You did a nice job with the interior decorating part of the job, but, you need to just admit that it would be a whole different experience to have all that decor on a decent truck.
I remember some advice you gave on towing a while back. I wouldn't trust you if you told me the sky were blue or water was wet.
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I remember some advice you gave on towing a while back. I wouldn't trust you if you told me the sky were blue or water was wet.
Really? I don't recall it. Maybe you can link a post and we can see just how bad it was. In the meantime, if you would be starting a long, involved project, investing thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, with a rig that would be transporting your family and possibly over long distances, and you would choose a 7.3 International dead U Haul, then I doubt I'd be paying much attention to you either.

Look, let's be honest here. That old U Haul is probably the worst box truck a person could find with a license plate on it. I said I liked what he did. How can anyone want more than that?

Maybe someone could post a worse box truck to use as a starting point for a nice project like this? I have an open mind. Link to something that is worse than a dead U Haul 7.3? Let's see if it is out there?
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Really? I don't recall it. Maybe you can link a post and we can see just how bad it was. In the meantime, if you would be starting a long, involved project, investing thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, with a rig that would be transporting your family and possibly over long distances, and you would choose a 7.3 International dead U Haul, then I doubt I'd be paying much attention to you either.

Look, let's be honest here. That old U Haul is probably the worst truck a person could find with a license plate on it. I said I liked what he did. How can anyone want more than that?
I guess you don't know what GTFO means. Maybe you should Google it.
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Really? I don't recall it. Maybe you can link a post and we can see just how bad it was. In the meantime, if you would be starting a long, involved project, investing thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, with a rig that would be transporting your family and possibly over long distances, and you would choose a 7.3 International dead U Haul, then I doubt I'd be paying much attention to you either.

Look, let's be honest here. That old U Haul is probably the worst box truck a person could find with a license plate on it. I said I liked what he did. How can anyone want more than that?

Maybe someone could post a worse box truck to use as a starting point for a nice project like this? I have an open mind. Link to something that is worse than a dead U Haul 7.3? Let's see if it is out there?
You didn't understand how bad the advice was.
It got him where he wanted to go.
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