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post #1 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 04:33 PM Thread Starter
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PLEASE LOOK! should I even try towing like this?

Will this be a really bad idea?


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post #2 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Fj is rated at 5000 towing, and the trailer loaded is 5500.
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post #3 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 07:41 PM
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I wouldn't try it. Looks like the trailer may be overloaded too.

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post #4 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 08:45 PM
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Get a jgc 4.7. Mine pulls my camper like its not even there
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post #5 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 09:27 PM
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Ask yourself if you'd survive a situation where you had to put the brake pedal to the front bumper at 60mph with it like that.

Most times it's not whether the towing vehicle can get the load moving or not that determines the towing capacity. It's whether or not the towing vehicle can avoid being pushed aside by the trailer when you have to test the ABS system in a panic stop while sawing on the steering wheel trying to avoid a load of pipe that fell off a semi truck on the freeway.

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An fj pulling a jeep does not look right . The only interaction between an fj and a jeep that i have seen is a jeep pulling out a sad little stuck fj
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post #7 of 81 Old 10-13-2012, 09:46 PM
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Will this be a really bad idea?
I've been driving big trucks for 18 years so I know the laws of the road alot, and I know here in NC you would be pulled over quick and not be alowed to continue. Dude, what are you thinking?
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post #8 of 81 Old 10-14-2012, 09:24 AM
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Do you ANY idea what the tongue weight is?

GVWR?
GCVWR?
RAWR?

Do you know what any/all of the above mean? Have you measured any/all of the above? If not, then you should not even be thinking about taking this combination down the road.


edit: Also, I hope you are using a good proportional controller..... (think Prodigy P2 or better)

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Do you ANY idea what the tongue weight is?

GVWR?
GCVWR?
RAWR?

Do you know what any/all of the above mean? Have you measured any/all of the above? If not, then you should not even be thinking about taking this combination down the road.
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Although it is aesthetically displeasing to have a jankie rig like that Toyota towing anything, it will be no problem. Those ratings are created to let the lawyers have somewhere to hang their hat besides driver error.

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post #12 of 81 Old 10-15-2012, 10:11 AM
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Fj is rated at 5000 towing, and the trailer loaded is 5500.
This is from the 07 owners manual, you need to find one for your vehicle:
"The maximum gross trailer weight
(trailer weight plus cargo weight)
must never exceed 2268 kg (5000
lb.). [B][SIZE="3"]If towing a trailer and cargo
weighing over 907 kg (2000 lb.), it
is necessary to use a sway control
device with sufficient capacity."

I have an 04 4 Runner and had a caution against using a weight distrusting hitch because the hitch on the V6 was bolted to a cross member of the frame and was not the same as the hitch in the V8 witch was a complete hitch that mounted to multiple points on the frame itself, not a cross member. It recommend using a sway contol device which is different that a weight distrubting hitch.

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Although it is aesthetically displeasing to have a jankie rig like that Toyota towing anything, it will be no problem. Those ratings are created to let the lawyers have somewhere to hang their hat besides driver error.
I am VERY glad you are on the other side of the country from me so when you do something like the above on the road and everything goes pear shaped, you're not likely to be on the same road as me, let alone my wife and son.

When that trailer decides it wants to go straight after the FJ turns the wheels, it's going to push the FJ right over on its side. Quite possibly right on top of another car.

Now when someone blatantly disregards the laws of physics and common sense and someone else gets hurt because of it, it's not just some lawyer ambulance chasing. It's called stupidity should be painful and expensive and the lawyer is ensuring the latter...

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I wouldn't do it if I were you. bad juju!

it is what it is except when its something else
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I am VERY glad you are on the other side of the country from me so when you do something like the above on the road and everything goes pear shaped, you're not likely to be on the same road as me, let alone my wife and son.

When that trailer decides it wants to go straight after the FJ turns the wheels, it's going to push the FJ right over on its side. Quite possibly right on top of another car.

Now when someone blatantly disregards the laws of physics and common sense and someone else gets hurt because of it, it's not just some lawyer ambulance chasing. It's called stupidity should be painful and expensive and the lawyer is ensuring the latter...
Oh, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Relax there little fella. The guy is towing a little Jeep on a lightweight trailer with a rig that is one click over its rated capacity which takes everything into account at the worst case scenario. And you are insulting me over it?

Dude, that same towing capacity would apply if the 5000 pound load was 30 feet long and six feet high. A nice compact load like what he describes above, is not only safe even when 10% over rated load limit, its probably safer than 90% of the 5000 pound loads that are towed by that make and model.

Want to compare that with a 20 foot sail boat on a 30 foot trailer at 5000 pounds? Use your head for something other than a hat rack.


Having said all of that, the rig is a munter and should be traded in on something effective.

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