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post #1 of 24 Old 04-27-2008, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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Flat towing with a Mercury mountaineer

I have an 2002 AWD V6 mountainer and a 90 YJ
do I have enough truck/hitch design to safely flat tow
[IMG][/IMG]The mercury has a built in receiver that takes a 1.25 inch hitch
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This is whats stamped on the 1.25 inch shaft
Gross weight is 2000 , Is that pulling and stopping force weight?
Is there no tounge weight if the Jeep is level as mine is?
The one thing I do know thats the tow bar is level and thats good
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The towing capacity of the mercury is 5940
The drawtite towbar is rated at class 3
I know there are no safety chains on yet and the hitch pin lever is up
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Tow bar brackets with grade 8 bolts
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I Towed it around town and it tracked perfect and didnt feel a strain on the mercury
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No, that is a class II hitch on your Mercury. It's rated to tow 2000 #'s MAX (stamped right on the ball mount). You need a class III or idealy a Class IV with weight distribution to do that safely in my opinion.

If something were to happen while you had that in tow, I would bet your insurance would not cover you once they saw that setup.

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The receiver is built in from the factory .Its part of the rear cross member of the frame. How do I remove it and install a new one?

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You couldn't pay me to flat tow with an SUV that light.

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The receiver is built in from the factory .Its part of the rear cross member of the frame. How do I remove it and install a new one?
Contact Ford/Mercury, but with the low tow rating on that thing, I would guess there is a reason they factory install a really light tow hitch setup. You really don't have the weight to bring that contraption to a stop quick enough should an emergency come up. I think that Mercury is more for towing a fishing boat to a lake or a small pop-up camper, not a jeep with no brakes on it.

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Ok, I found this:

http://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2002_M...ountaineer.htm

Looks like that rear crossmember stays in and you can bolt a new hitch right below it. Very silly, but thats the design I guess.



This is the theory, although the weight of that vehicle doesn't exactly make it ideal to flat tow anything.
You would need ideally:

New Class III Hitch Assembly
New Ballmount / Ball At proper raise / drop.
Auto Transmission Cooler (If you don't have one from the factory)
Lights for the Vehicle in Tow (Stop, Tail, Turn)
Bigger Chains than what comes with the Tow Bar Setup

Even with all this, my personal thoughts is I still wouldn't do it. Your YJ would push that thing around like a toy in any kind of abrupt maneuver or stopping. If you are doing this frequently, that makes the situation even worse.

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you can also take the one thats in there out and replace it with a class III or IV go check out some explorer forums and you can see
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Even still, Not enough vehicle to do that flat tow safely.

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Thanks for the info. Plan b is to drive the jeep to the Jamboree. Its 2 hours away. I wanted to tow it in case anything broke

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Thanks for the info. Plan b is to drive the jeep to the Jamboree. Its 2 hours away. I wanted to tow it in case anything broke
Depending on your breakage, you are better off either having a trailer or just driving the jeep if you break. If you break something related to everything needed to let it roll, you are SOL with 2 vehicles instead of 1.

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I'd flat tow that yj with the Mountaineer in a heartbeat. But it would have to have a 2" Class III hitch, and I wouldn't be planning on a bunch of people and gear.

If it won't roll after wheeling carnage, at least you have a vehicle to run around with and get parts and stuff to get her fixed up.

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I'd flat tow that yj with the Mountaineer in a heartbeat. But it would have to have a 2" Class III hitch, and I wouldn't be planning on a bunch of people and gear.

If it won't roll after wheeling carnage, at least you have a vehicle to run around with and get parts and stuff to get her fixed up.
Hey I get 1 vote. Thanks Wilson, Im going to get a class 3 sometime before the jamboree, i still have time to deceide

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Wow, I am looking to do the same thing but with an 04 Explorer (4.0 V6) and all the way across the country (Cali to S. Carolina). My manual says that anything over 3500lbs requires a Weight Distribution Hitch. My question is, can you use a Weight Distribution Hitch with a tow bar? Any suggestions?
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Wow, I am looking to do the same thing but with an 04 Explorer (4.0 V6) and all the way across the country (Cali to S. Carolina). My manual says that anything over 3500lbs requires a Weight Distribution Hitch. My question is, can you use a Weight Distribution Hitch with a tow bar? Any suggestions?
Isnt that a tounge weight thing only?

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Isnt that a tounge weight thing only?
No, that is related to the gross weight of what you are towing.

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