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post #1 of 9 Old 01-11-2011, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
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Feedback on a van

Well ladies and gentlemen, What do you think of this for a tow rig / work van?
I think it would be great for working in the "projects"

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post #2 of 9 Old 01-11-2011, 05:00 PM
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Why would a rapist need an armored van?

lol jk... But really... why is it armored?

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Who knows, It's kind of overkill really...
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Its an old money tender for ATM's. They weigh too much to be useful for anything other than getting to work in South Central or equivalent.

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I wouldn't take that and try to use to for any purpose. You'd be better off with something else of a standard van. If you look at cargo vans, you'll have a basis for converting to a usable toter/camping setup. Even one with seats. Any effort into that protective van will take lots more labor. Besides, the extra weight of the protection will eat a lot of the fuel up. There are lots of deals out there in the KC area.

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I wouldn't take that and try to use to for any purpose. You'd be better off with something else of a standard van. If you look at cargo vans, you'll have a basis for converting to a usable toter/camping setup. Even one with seats. Any effort into that protective van will take lots more labor. Besides, the extra weight of the protection will eat a lot of the fuel up. There are lots of deals out there in the KC area.
I agree with this^

Too bad I did not see this post a week ago. I just traded in a very very nice conversion van. Not sure if in the stick MO is close to bum**** MO but maybe we could have worked a deal.

The van you are loking at could be at or close to its max as far as what it could haul or tow.

I had a conversion van and the suspension, brakes, gearing, rear axle, alternator and other components had to be changed because of the conversion, who knows what has been done to the van you are looking at van to accommodate for its extra weight. My conversion added over a 1,000lbs to the weight of the vehicle. The conversion was done by a company called Elk, and they had provided the towing and equipment info for the conversion. If you don’t have that info you really don’t know what you are getting.

Even with the conversion my van was rated to tow 7200lbs and it made for an excellent tow vehicle. Without the conversion it was rated to tow just under 10K.

With the set up you are looking at how can you be sure what info you can get as far as what has been changed to support the weight or what it could tow. If you do not have this info it will be very difficult in some instances to get replacement parts or to really know what you can safely tow.

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Its an old money tender for ATM's. They weigh too much to be useful for anything other than getting to work in South Central or equivalent.
Given the continued dialogue, I guess I should have expounded on this a little. An armored van (they make them up the road from where I live) is at its absolute maximum weight with a couple of thousand pounds of money and cops in it. It won't tow anything. The armor weighs as much as the van. They make that van so you can fire a 5.56mm round from an M16 into the doors at point blank range and not disturb anything. That is not a little sheet metal in the doors. Same for the hood and the top. It will be lucky to keep up in traffic and you will find yourself passed on hills by a fully loaded beer truck. Forget the van unless you want to prank your friends. It isn't any good for anything else.

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An armored van (they make them up the road from where I live) is at its absolute maximum weight with a couple of thousand pounds of money and cops in it. It won't tow anything. The armor weighs as much as the van. They make that van so you can fire a 5.56mm round from an M16 into the doors at point blank range and not disturb anything. That is not a little sheet metal in the doors. Same for the hood and the top. It will be lucky to keep up in traffic and you will find yourself passed on hills by a fully loaded beer truck.
Hmm, really in a diesel? I was under the impression that they would have more usable power than the 15 passenger 351w van that I get to drive.

The real question that I had was how good are this era of diesel motor setup.
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post #9 of 9 Old 01-14-2011, 08:44 PM
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Its a 7.3 diesel I assume which is a good engine although not much power. Lots of reliability. But your 15 passengers don't even make a dent in that armoring unless they are all Roseann Barr. Seriously, 3000 lbs of people is not close to the weight of the armoring. Just take it for a spin and see for yourself.

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