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Unread 11-01-2011, 11:59 AM   #1
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Best winch for the trailer

I'm going to put a winch in my enclosed trailer to make it easier to load dead vehicles. Thankfully the TJ hasn't fallen into this category yet (knock on wood), but I move old trucks from time to time that do, and it would be a handy thing to have in there anyway.

Now to my questions. What size winch would you recommend? I want an American made product, and am looking at the Warn VR8000 for $479.99 at 4 wheel parts. Is that too big a winch to be dragging dead vehicles up into a trailer? The 8k winch is cheaper than their 6k winch, which is a bit confusing, but...

Thoughts or recommendations?

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Unread 11-01-2011, 12:40 PM   #2
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I have been lookin to put one on my trailer also. I think Im going to go with a 8K Warn craigslist special mainly because there easy to find and cheap.
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You could probably get away with a "large" quad-winch in the 4000lb range for pulling rolling-stock into the trailer - that is as long as the thing that is being pulled in is not dragging on the ground (no-wheels) and you are not using the quad-winch for pulling stuff out of sucking mud.
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Unread 11-01-2011, 03:01 PM   #4
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I would agree that a 4000 Lb. winch should be adequate to load a "roller" into the trailer. Electrical loading and battery life should also be better with the smaller winch.
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Unread 11-01-2011, 04:22 PM   #5
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Yeah if the rig rolls then a 4K would do the trick and that is probably what I would get if the last rig I pulled wasnt a 50 Hudson 4 door. with 3 locked breaks and 4 flats and had been sitting in some bushes for a few years. It kept pulling my Jeep.

Think about what your going to be pulling up on it
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Unread 11-01-2011, 08:38 PM   #6
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Yeah if the rig rolls then a 4K would do the trick and that is probably what I would get if the last rig I pulled wasnt a 50 Hudson 4 door. with 3 locked breaks and 4 flats and had been sitting in some bushes for a few years. It kept pulling my Jeep.

Think about what your going to be pulling up on it
Good point, just because it's a "rolling" vehicle doesn't mean it's rolling very well. I'll keep my eyes open for someone upgrading their 8k Warn.

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Unread 11-02-2011, 09:21 AM   #7
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You don't want a miniature winch in the trailer. I put one on my flatbed cause I had it in the shop off a Gator and it was miserable. It lasted all of one vehicle and it was so weak I replaced it.

The big problem is the power. You can't put 30 feet of battery cables to it (they will cost as much as the winch) so you need to locate a battery in the trailer or on the tongue of the trailer and just recharge it periodically. It doesn't hurt to have the spare power either. Stuff a set of battery cables and a few welding rods into the trailer and you can do a minor welding repair from that spare battery or start a dead rig or run some lights while people are working without having to run your rig.

Good news is that since you will only use it occasionally and for a nice straight pull into the trailer, you can buy a cheapo winch and it will last forever. Further, it will be inside so it won't deteriorate like cheapo winches do out in the weather.

I put an 8000 lb winch on my flatbed but I got a mid priced one since it is outside all the time. Works great. Can't imagine recovery without one.


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Unread 11-02-2011, 07:07 PM   #8
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The good news on the batteries is that they'll only be about 6' from the winch. I'm looking at the Superwinch vice the Warn to save some money, but I have a Warn on the Jeep and it works great 12 years later.
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Unread 11-03-2011, 05:34 AM   #9
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What are you towing with tha has the battery in the back?
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Unread 12-30-2011, 05:28 PM   #10
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I use a WARN M8000 on my 18' flat bed trailer, I ran the WARN remote power kit to the rear of my dually. The winch actually does double duty between the trailer and my YJ. You mount it, 4 bolts, plug it and use it. It's loaded/dragged some heavy crap onto the trailer. If you buy the larger winch now, you'll never wish you did later. Good luck, Ron
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:41 PM   #11
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What are you towing with tha has the battery in the back?
Sorry, I haven't been back to this thread in a while. I'm putting the winch in a 36' enclosed trailer and am also building up the electrical in the trailer. Right now it has 1 battery, but eventually will be running dual deep cycle batteries with solar panels up top connected through a 30-amp charge controller, as well as a 30-amp RV service panel with house power connection to support the eventual living quarters. I'm definitely going with a larger winch so I don't have to worry about using a snatch block and running out of cable out the back of the trailer.
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Unread 01-04-2012, 12:51 AM   #12
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Sorry, I haven't been back to this thread in a while. I'm putting the winch in a 36' enclosed trailer and am also building up the electrical in the trailer. Right now it has 1 battery, but eventually will be running dual deep cycle batteries with solar panels up top connected through a 30-amp charge controller, as well as a 30-amp RV service panel with house power connection to support the eventual living quarters. I'm definitely going with a larger winch so I don't have to worry about using a snatch block and running out of cable out the back of the trailer.


Interesting to know that. I was wondering what you had in mind. Maybe some roof top solar panels for charging? You won't be sorry for using the larger winch.
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Good point, just because it's a "rolling" vehicle doesn't mean it's rolling very well. I'll keep my eyes open for someone upgrading their 8k Warn.

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I have a Warn HS 9500I and I have loaded many vehicles and parts of vehicles, tractors, and other heavy crap on trailers.

If you have any sort of tire or wheel that will keep the vehicle from digging in it isn't that hard, even if the tire is flat or doesn't roll. But if whatever you are dragging digs in things change.

Make sure when you mount you winch you keep that in mind. Make sure the structure of the trailer is up to the task. Even if you have the mounting plate form hell the biggest beast of a winch and you mount it to your trailer that doesn't mean the structure of the trailer can handle the forces generated.

Your winch and mounting plate could handle 15k but if the place you mount this too can't, you may have some problems.
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On the rare occasions I need to pull something dead onto my trailer, I use a simple come-along. I usually have to do two half pulls, one with a tow strap for length, then one without. There is plenty of things on my list to to spend money on that are used more often.
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There is nothing that beats a couple of tree limbs laid in front of the dead metal to get a non rolling mess up on the trailer with a winch or a come along and snatch block.
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