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Unread 06-18-2012, 11:26 PM   #16
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I've been trolling your thread for a bit now, just never had anything of merit to say. I've been looking for. Trailer as well but planned on using a Comanche bed that I have but really liked your trailer.

Tonight, by sheer chance, I picked up a a trailer or a super sweet deal and thought it looked familiar and came to your thread to be sure, mines nearly identical but black and in a little worse shape. How did you know it was a 1950s Sears trailer?

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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:17 AM   #17
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Mine had a tag riveted on the front with the numbers 231-417 on it. I googled that number and it came up with a thread on another jeep forum full of identical trailers. If yours is similar then it was probably a "David Bradley" trailer manufactured for Sears during the 40's-50's. I havent been able to narrow down the exact year but the fender styles changed and I believe I have one of the later models, probably late 50's. Post up a pic or two.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:29 AM   #18
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Mine had a tag riveted on the front with the numbers 231-417 on it. I googled that number and it came up with a thread on another jeep forum full of identical trailers. If yours is similar then it was probably a "David Bradley" trailer manufactured for Sears during the 40's-50's. I havent been able to narrow down the exact year but the fender styles changed and I believe I have one of the later models, probably late 50's. Post up a pic or two.
I didn't see a small tag but if it's that old, I'm not surprised if it got lost at some point.

Here are a couplefew pics









It towed behind my ZJ very nicely. Only issue is that it's too dang narrow. With my Bushwacker flares on, I can't see it at all behind me if I'm in a straight line. I will likely widen the stance a little with offset wheels and different fenders on it.

Looks like the wheels are a 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern, is that what you found on yours?
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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:37 AM   #19
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Thanks for the tip on the serial number, found the link I think you were talking about. Lots of good info. Thanks!
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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:39 AM   #20
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They are 5 on 5.5. You would have to change the axle out to run common wheels. Your's looks to be in pretty good shape as well though. Mine is missing a stake pocket on one side and another stake pocket is smashed up a bit but other than than its in good shape.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:46 AM   #21
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They are 5 on 5.5. You would have to change the axle out to run common wheels. Your's looks to be in pretty good shape as well though. Mine is missing a stake pocket on one side and another stake pocket is smashed up a bit but other than than its in good shape.
Why would I need to change the axle out for common wheels? The 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern is pretty common for CJs, Broncos and what not. Is it the center bore that's too big or something?

Overall, it's in pretty decent shape. I'm missing a stake pocket as well on the driver side. The side sheetmetal for the box is rusting out along the bottom where it meets the deck almost all the way around. The previous owner did a pretty decent job of straying all the rust down with rust converter paint to keep it from getting worse. He got the trailer from his Grandpa who used it out in the fields.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 09:56 AM   #22
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By common I meant the same wheel/tire combination as you're ZJ, not as in readily available. Also, the axle is very narrow on these trailers so finding a wheel with enough offset is going to be difficult. That's why I stuck with the gravediggers (military style tires) and the original rims.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 10:01 AM   #23
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Oh gotcha, cool, thanks! I thought about running a spacer on it and with that spacer converting it to the 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern. I really need to do something to get it wider, I'm not gonna be happy going on trips with it so narrow, I like to be able to at least see a corner of it or something.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 10:15 AM   #24
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I know what you mean, I can barely see it behind my TJ so a ZJ would be a pain. I didn't even bother looking for spacers, let me know if you find something. It would be cool to have matching wheels/tires.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 10:17 AM   #25
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I was looking at using Spidertrax spacers, I've heard nothing but good reviews on them.

http://www.spidertrax.com/Jeep-1-25-...category=10001

Though it seems that they may not have the conversion spacers anymore. If I find them, I'll post a link.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 10:27 AM   #26
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Doesn't look like any of the big name spacer manufacturers make one for going from 5 on 5.5" to 5 on 4.5" - found a couple going the other way around (to make my ZJ or your TJ to 5 on 5.5") but I'm not going to buy new wheels for my Jeep any time soon! Guess I'll stick with the 5 on 5.5". I'm not running the same size tire any how so it's not like I'm going to be using the trailer tires as spares for the Jeep.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 02:15 PM   #27
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Here's some better daylight pictures





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Unread 06-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #28
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Not bad, cut out that rust and patch in some angle iron and she will be solid again and you can really start modding it.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #29
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What plans do you have for it?
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Unread 06-19-2012, 04:11 PM   #30
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Not bad, cut out that rust and patch in some angle iron and she will be solid again and you can really start modding it.
That's exactly what I planned on doing. Need to go through getting it all registered and plated first but that's the first part of the resto/modding.

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What plans do you have for it?
Mainly clean it up. I need to widen it, so that will probably be the first big mod on it. I'll widen the axle and spread the fenders out. I'll end up building some stand on sides right in front and behind the fenders, maybe some Jerry can mounts. Also thinking of lengthening the tongue so I can put a specific steel box I have up there and still be able to turn. It's a 2 foot deep box which doesn't leave much of the tongue left.
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